What has happened to Adi Dem?

[Laughing]

That's certainly interesting, of course some of Robsons games were in the prem. Interesting never the less

 

[Pog]

pulis found us outside the Play offs and left us outside the play offs.” .

But in a higher position.

“He sold our 3 best players, leaving the squad much weaker as a result and did sell on 2 others in Forshaw and Christie for a combined £48m.”

Yes I’m sure he was delighted at having to sell Ben Gibson and Adama Traore.

“He spent £20m on 3 permanent signings. We've already lost £3m on one of the spuds Flint and would lose at least that if we were to sell Saville. We might get our money back on McNair.”

He’s part of a recruitment team, he doesn’t identify the players.

“The wage bill was reduced by £8m, but was still over £40m, a major wage bill and competitive advantage for him, yet he went backwards.“

If nobody wants Clayton, Gestede, Friend, Shotton, etc what exactly are you expecting him to do? Ask them nicely to rip up their deals? Having rubbish players on big money is in no way, shape or form an advantage, it’s a big disadvantage.

“The money he spunked on besic, hugill, mikel, vlp and the other expensive loans was lunacy. He loaned hugill for a season spending half the fee received for our best striker.”

Again, point your anger at the recruitment team. Mikel was the only one of those who personally identified and chased, and he was very good.

“He was part of double act with monk that has left us poorer and weaker.”

Except he didn’t in any measurable way

“They were both horrendous failures”

7th is an horrendous failure, you’re expectations aren’t ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

 

[Pog]

I knew your Pulis alert would have gone off at that post. On the one hand you say he wasn’t responsible for overseeing transfers (thereby absolving him of blame for the utter dross he signed which you appear to blame Gibson for) and yet on the other give him credit for his transfer profit and wage bill lowering (which he achieved by someone paying a huge sum for one player and by flogging the best striker at the club before spaffing the proceeds). Which is it because you can’t have it both ways?

I’m not giving him credit for it, he didn’t negotiate a single fee. I’m stating that as a simple fact that, the club made a profit with him as manager.

Have you come up with any measurable ways in which we were left in a “much, much worse position” that when Pulis took over?

The fact you’ve come back with nothing tells me you’re struggling.

 

[Adi_Dem]

That's certainly interesting, of course some of Robsons games were in the prem. Interesting never the less

That’s the key point for me. Ignoring the fact that Robson spent much more time in the top division.

I’m not giving him credit for it, he didn’t negotiate a single fee. I’m stating that as a simple fact that, the club made a profit with him as manager.

Have you come up with any measurable ways in which we were left in a “much, much worse position” that when Pulis took over?

The fact you’ve come back with nothing tells me you’re struggling.

The mental gymnastics are impressive Pog. As is your inability to simply respond to posts without the passive aggression.

Yes, it’s really quite simple. He wasted the last bit of money we had on absolute dross that we didn’t need having rid the squad of just about all it’s quality, he turned fans off in their droves as a result of the low scoring awful football he had us playing and he failed in our two best chances to get back up post relegation.

As a result of that he left us with no money left to spend, a terrible and unbalanced squad and a fan base that had been made miserable by his god awful approach to football culminating in our worst run of home for what was it? 25, 30 years or something? So yeah he left us in a much poorer state than when he took over and that’s impressive given that he took over from Monk who had started the job for him.

 

[Marvanelli]

Warnock has had 1 transfer window and has already brought more balance to the team than what Monk did (having over £50m warchest) and what Pulis did in 3 transfer windows, with less funds available....and that's after inheriting a shocking squad (left by Woodgate, who was also left a quite shocking unbalanced squad by Sir Tony).

How anyone can defend Pulis' time as manager is incredible.

He blasted the best part of £20m on players we didn't need (or lets say there were a number of positions in the squad that needed addressing far more than central midfield!).
He made us god damn awful to watch.
He broke a long standing unwanted home record.
He left us outside the play offs.
He alienated the fans.

No two ways about it. Pulis was a failure. Simple as that.

Monk - Failure
Pulis - Failure
Woodgate - Failure
Warnock - Jury out, but signs are very much promising.

 

[Nobby_Barnes]

I see the usual Pulis Haters are out in force....

The sensible ones among us can see Pulis did a reasonable job for us and brought stability on and off the pitch whilst keeping us in touch with the play offs.He did really well developing Adama at the same time

 

[Marvanelli]

I see the usual Pulis Haters are out in force....

The sensible ones among us can see Pulis did a reasonable job for us and brought stability on and off the pitch whilst keeping us in touch with the play offs.He did really well developing Adama at the same time

Remove your blinkers Nobby

 

[indeedido]

I see the usual Pulis Haters are out in force....

The sensible ones among us can see Pulis did a reasonable job for us and brought stability on and off the pitch whilst keeping us in touch with the play offs.He did really well developing Adama at the same time

I'm happy to see your definition of sensible extends to just you and pog.
Fitting.