What happens after Gibbo?

VestasBoro said:
She's an actor isn't she, not sure how much she has to do with the club. You'd think if SG saw her as his replacement, she'd be bedded in early doors but she might be, who knows.

I think when he calls it a day, he sells up.
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She's certainly closer to the running of the club than your post suggests, but not sure how close. I believe he also has another child (much younger from his second marriage) so there's another potential chairperson.

The key really is how much funding he leaves for the club (some sort of trust fund a la Jack Walker) when his time comes.
 
i could see the family thing going to way of Blackburn and Wigan, club handed over with best intentions only to be sold off to another party within a couple of years
 
Low_Key said:
i could see the family thing going to way of Blackburn and Wigan, club handed over with best intentions only to be sold off to another party within a couple of years
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Yes, I think the club will end up sold off. Likely to a foreign company.

Remember that prem capable clubs don't become available very often. If we are in the prem with a decade or more behind us, then we will have a lot of very rich suitors. Hopefully that day is decades away, but I don't think we will have a problem getting new owners.
 
VestasBoro said:
She's an actor isn't she, not sure how much she has to do with the club. You'd think if SG saw her as his replacement, she'd be bedded in early doors but she might be, who knows.

I think when he calls it a day, he sells up.
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Katie Gibson has been on the board at MFC Foundation for the past 2 or 3 years and for all we know might well be shadowing her father at Boro.
 
It's a very unsettling thing to consider.

I would hate to become another nothing sportswashed club like Man City, PSG, Newcastle. Or what if someone like the Venkys took control?

Seems to be far more bad owners than good ones out there.

I suppose we just need to enjoy what we have currently and then what will be will be. As mentioned above, it's possible to succession plan to an extent but that didn't ultimately help Wigan or Blackburn.
 
I don't see him stepping away anytime soon. Although you'd fully understand if he did. The sheer amount of money he's losing for a being a 'fan'.

He's been absolutely amazing for us and long may it continue. I imagine he will have someone lined up and will need 'vetting' by Gibson himself. I can't see him just handing it over to the highest bidder.

He's a very low key chairman. You never hear from him and he's out of the lime light. He just pumps the money in. I think he's already taken a bit of a step back over the last few years. Employing people to run the day to day running of the club.

That said he still can 'bark and bite'. I loved his responses about Derby and more so Chelsea when they tried to cancel the FA cup match....go Steve 👌
 
Doesn't bear thinking about, whoever it is, the succession is going to leave us in a very disruptive and uncertain situation.
 
Im sure Steve Gibson has already thought about this question and Im sure he has a plan. Other than the odd managerial appointment he seems to get it right so Ive every faith in him looking after the best interests of the club after he passes it on.

Although Im not sure why some of you are so bothered, given the average age of the posters on here most of us will be gone before Gibbo!
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
It's a very unsettling thing to consider.

I would hate to become another nothing sportswashed club like Man City, PSG, Newcastle. Or what if someone like the Venkys took control?

Seems to be far more bad owners than good ones out there.

I suppose we just need to enjoy what we have currently and then what will be will be. As mentioned above, it's possible to succession plan to an extent but that didn't ultimately help Wigan or Blackburn.
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Would you really hate, if we became the next Man City? If they spent billions renovating the whole area around the ground, invested massively in the City, and then the club went on to win trophy after trophy. Not sure i'd hate that.
 
Ironops said:
Although Im not sure why some of you are so bothered, given the average age of the posters on here most of us will be gone before Gibbo!
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Just because most of us would like to think MFC will still be running and successful in some form or another in 20, 30, 50 or more years. MFC carried on through all the social and industrial change, wars, poverty and prosperity in the 20th century. It's one of the few constant threads on Teesside that still exists. But it only exists because of Steve Gibson, and when he's had enough I don't see the future.
 
VestasBoro said:
Would you really hate, if we became the next Man City? If they spent billions renovating the whole area around the ground, invested massively in the City, and then the club went on to win trophy after trophy. Not sure i'd hate that.
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You've got to look into ownership from the start to finish (and we haven't seen the end of City's current owners). Everyone held up Chelsea as a success story, but let's see what happens post Abramovic to see how healthy a club he actually left and then we can judge his time in charge with the full facts - balancing the success with the debt he left and the impact of that.
 
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VestasBoro said:
Would you really hate, if we became the next Man City? If they spent billions renovating the whole area around the ground, invested massively in the City, and then the club went on to win trophy after trophy. Not sure i'd hate that.
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I honestly would as the club is soulless now.

I bet there are loads of city fans who enjoyed their time getting promoted back from league 1 far more than the current era.

The way I think of it is that when I used to play football manger and I would sometimes cheat to inflate my transfer budget, the sense of satisfaction wasn't there. I enjoyed the game far more when i learned not to cheat. City and the rest are playing with a cheat code.

Also, as mentioned above, how sure can you be about what the long term goals of these seemingly benign owners are?

Maybe some kind of global league with city and psg based in the middle east? Who knows?
 
Club is bankrolled by Bulkhaul isn’t it? Would imagine this would be in doubt if Gibbo stepped down as I am unaware if his daughter has any direct involvement with Bulkhaul
 
If Middlesbrough are in the Championship then they will lose money every season.
That means they require equity injection, or loans every season to survive and keep playing.
No external finance provider will finance this basket case of a current company.
So, we need a rich owner, or at the very least a Group who is willing and able to offset MFC’s debt across the Group as Gibson O’Neill has and does.
If MFC goes up and stays up, then the revenue stream and profile drastically improves, but unless Gibson is willing to write off c£150m the club “owes” Group then nobody will pay him much for the club.
It is why I keep banging on that it is imperative that we get into the Pl and stay there. We simply need the revenue.
Gibson can continue to guarantee (not inject) the £10- £30m a season the club loses outside the PL only if GO’N trundles along at such high margin.
But the club debt to him simply grows ever massive until he either writes it off, sells the club( to who?) or simply recovers as much as he can.
His daughter assuming the reigns would be horrific. No longer the funding source from GON and nothing else of value brought into the boardroom.
We are stuck with each other.
It is ridiculous to think we will get someone else to take it on, he can’t sell it, won’t write off the debt and has to keep going in the hope of a Pl reset.
It is a trade off between his football strategy and decisions versus his immense financial guarantee.
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
I honestly would as the club is soulless now.

I bet there are loads of city fans who enjoyed their time getting promoted back from league 1 far more than the current era.

The way I think of it is that when I used to play football manger and I would sometimes cheat to inflate my transfer budget, the sense of satisfaction wasn't there. I enjoyed the game far more when i learned not to cheat. City and the rest are playing with a cheat code.

Also, as mentioned above, how sure can you be about what the long term goals of these seemingly benign owners are?

Maybe some kind of global league with city and psg based in the middle east? Who knows?
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I think it's only soulless outside looking in I think. I've got loads of city fans in various WhatsApp groups and they all love the fact they're full of stars and win silverware etc
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
I would hate to become another nothing sportswashed club like Man City
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I'm sorry but that is a frankly ridiculous thing to say. No supporter in their right mind could ever say the wouldn't want their club being taken over and slowly being built up to being one of the biggest and most successful clubs in the world, while watching some of the very best players in the world play for your club.
 
In my oppinion, when he does step away it'll be a very sad day. Any potential owners will be vetted completely by Steve Gibson I have 100% faith in that, he won't let any bad owners take over

If we have PL behind us I dare say we'll be a very, very attractive position for an extremely rich consortium.
Plenty you could do around the ground, great fan base, rich neighbours up the road to compete with.
In the championship though I'd imagine we'd get another set of steady owners, much like Gibbo
 
Agree. Will be a sad day when it eventually comes to pass. His daughter might be a big Boro fan, but I doubt she will have his endless passion for Boro.
 
AC Jimbo said:
I'm sorry but that is a frankly ridiculous thing to say. No supporter in their right mind could ever say the wouldn't want their club being taken over and slowly being built up to being one of the biggest and most successful clubs in the world, while watching some of the very best players in the world play for your club.
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We are all entitled to our opinions.

I honestly would not want to be a plastic toy club for some barbaric regime. Your opinion is obviously different.
 
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