What does Kieran Scott actually do?
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JohnsonMFC
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Nothing like giving things a bit of time ey. These foreign lads who have been brought in, how many minutes have they played? Which ones haven't been upto scratch?
Middlesbrough123
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Payero ,silky and sporar .
If you just look at payero, he hasn’t featured enough for us to judge him but the move to bring him in has to go down as a fail wether it’s the players fault or whoever picks him
UTB70
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Most of our signing i was aware of like lenihan, giles and smith. But didnt know mowatt was available or steffen. Never heard of hoppe abd larsson until this seaon. So must have knowledge of up coming players with potential. Emil riis was an obcious targer i mentioned months ago. I guess KS does alot of ground work and talking to clubs about players. I still maintain the best way to find good players is to ask the own supporters of the clubs for a general idea.
Smoggyonthesolent
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Where do you think Forrss, Hoppe have come from? Boro scouts or Kieran?
The_Lizards_Jumpers
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There's no difference, his job isn't to go out and watch every single player himself, but instead put in place a structure to identify and evaluate players working in conjunction with his team.
ThatFragranceGuy
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This. Also to ensure that players have a continual thread for succession running through the team, which with no fund has probably been different but probably how we end up with players like McGree signing, and Hoppe, that aren't necessarily the immediate starters but we don't end up like we have been of late with no players.
Imagine there is discussion as a team before anyone is signed to make sure they fit with current or future plans. It avoids the need to do a full rebuild every time manager changes when it is done right.
r00fie1
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Lets get the facts straight before anyone reels off a list of names and "blames" Kieran Scott!
Its that "blame culture" rearing its head again!
Martin Payero`s signature had been agreed before Kieran Scott took up his role.
See: https://www.footballinsider247.com/...-advanced-talks-to-sign-payero-from-atletico/
[7th July 2021]
Andraz Sporar arrived at Boro at the end of August 2021 - before Kieran Scott took up his post.
See:
www.gazettelive.co.uk
James Lea Siliki joined Boro on loan in August 2021 - before Kieran Scott took up his new post at Boro.
Siliki was reported to be joining Boro before Kieran Scott had taken up his job at Boro.
See: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.c...reement-with-rennes-to-sign-james-lea-siliki/ [26th August 2021]
Kieran Scott was appointed Director of Football and commenced his job at the beginning of September [September 2021].
See:
www.thenorthernecho.co.uk
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https://trainingground.guru/articles/kieran-scott-director-of-football-‘controls-what-future-looks-like’
Scott was appointed Head of Football in August 2021* [Started his job at the beginning of September 2021]
Written by Training Ground Guru — January 16, 2022
MIDDLESBROUGH Head of Football Kieran Scott says his job is to “control what the future looks like”.
The 38-year-old joined Boro in August last year from Norwich City, where he was their Head of Recruitment. His title at the Riverside is the unusual one of Head of Football, although the role is actually akin to that of the more common Sporting Director or Director of Football.
“For me, the key area for a Director of Football is the ins and outs of player transfers,” Scott told The Northern Echo. “You’ve got to look at the squad and be able to control what the future looks like.
“You’ve got players coming in from the Academy and you’ve got to make sure the path stays clear for them, and then you’ve also got your sales and purchases. You’re trying to put square pegs in square holes all the time, whether that’s an internal player or an external player that you’re recruiting.”
He explained where he comes in in the recruitment process.
“In terms of signing a player, my role really comes in right at the end, and that’s the deal,” he said. “Of course, I need to see the players and agree they’re right for the club and that the manager is on board, but the shortlisting and scouting, and the early part of the work, is done by the recruitment team underneath.
“We’ve started the process of appointing a new Head of Recruitment (a position that has been vacant since 2019), and they’ll come to me for what will effectively be the end of the process, where we can then work together and make the deals happen.”
Scott’s first big job at Boro was to help appoint a new manager after Neil Warnock was sacked in November. Former Sheffield United boss Chris Wilder came in after a "thorough process".
“It wasn’t necessarily a case of the previous manager leaving straight away, but it was clearly going to happen at some stage,” Scott said. I’d witnessed what was going on, on the pitch and on the training ground, and by the end I think there was just an acceptance that it needed new blood and new energy. It needed some new life, and for me, that meant a new manager.
“It was my job to identify candidates and analyse whether they’d be a good fit for Middlesbrough. It was clear Chris fitted the bill as to what we needed. We went through a thorough process – it wasn’t like a one-man shortlist – but as soon as I met Chris, I knew he was a great fit for the club.
“I thought his style of play would really suit us and I knew the intensity of what he would bring would be a huge lift for everybody. Without doubt, Chris was the right man for the job.”
Another responsibility of the Director of Football is to retain some continuity in the backroom staff, rather than changing them every time the manager changes, Scott added.
“If Chris does fantastic and Manchester United want to take him, he’s going to take key staff with him, there’s nothing you can do about that," he said.
“But there has to be a nucleus of staff behind that stay and help build a mentality within the club, so if there is a shift, we’re just replacing certain key staff within a structure that remains constant. That’s definitely an area where I’m still working hard to get the balance right.”
Its that "blame culture" rearing its head again!
Martin Payero`s signature had been agreed before Kieran Scott took up his role.
See: https://www.footballinsider247.com/...-advanced-talks-to-sign-payero-from-atletico/
[7th July 2021]
Andraz Sporar arrived at Boro at the end of August 2021 - before Kieran Scott took up his post.
See:
Sporar joins Boro with point to prove after tough Sporting spell
PortuGOAL's Tom Kundert offers expert insight into Middlesbrough new boy Andraz Sporar
www.gazettelive.co.uk
James Lea Siliki joined Boro on loan in August 2021 - before Kieran Scott took up his new post at Boro.
Siliki was reported to be joining Boro before Kieran Scott had taken up his job at Boro.
See: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.c...reement-with-rennes-to-sign-james-lea-siliki/ [26th August 2021]
Kieran Scott was appointed Director of Football and commenced his job at the beginning of September [September 2021].
See:
Middlesbrough's new head of football pledges to 'put some life back' into the club
MIDDLESBROUGH’S new head of football has pledged to “put some life back” into the club’s off-field operations after taking up his role at…
https://trainingground.guru/articles/kieran-scott-director-of-football-‘controls-what-future-looks-like’
Kieran Scott: Director of Football ‘controls what future looks like’
Articles / Leadership/ Middlesbrough
Scott was appointed Head of Football in August 2021* [Started his job at the beginning of September 2021]
Written by Training Ground Guru — January 16, 2022
MIDDLESBROUGH Head of Football Kieran Scott says his job is to “control what the future looks like”.
The 38-year-old joined Boro in August last year from Norwich City, where he was their Head of Recruitment. His title at the Riverside is the unusual one of Head of Football, although the role is actually akin to that of the more common Sporting Director or Director of Football.
“For me, the key area for a Director of Football is the ins and outs of player transfers,” Scott told The Northern Echo. “You’ve got to look at the squad and be able to control what the future looks like.
“You’ve got players coming in from the Academy and you’ve got to make sure the path stays clear for them, and then you’ve also got your sales and purchases. You’re trying to put square pegs in square holes all the time, whether that’s an internal player or an external player that you’re recruiting.”
He explained where he comes in in the recruitment process.
“In terms of signing a player, my role really comes in right at the end, and that’s the deal,” he said. “Of course, I need to see the players and agree they’re right for the club and that the manager is on board, but the shortlisting and scouting, and the early part of the work, is done by the recruitment team underneath.
“We’ve started the process of appointing a new Head of Recruitment (a position that has been vacant since 2019), and they’ll come to me for what will effectively be the end of the process, where we can then work together and make the deals happen.”
Scott’s first big job at Boro was to help appoint a new manager after Neil Warnock was sacked in November. Former Sheffield United boss Chris Wilder came in after a "thorough process".
“It wasn’t necessarily a case of the previous manager leaving straight away, but it was clearly going to happen at some stage,” Scott said. I’d witnessed what was going on, on the pitch and on the training ground, and by the end I think there was just an acceptance that it needed new blood and new energy. It needed some new life, and for me, that meant a new manager.
“It was my job to identify candidates and analyse whether they’d be a good fit for Middlesbrough. It was clear Chris fitted the bill as to what we needed. We went through a thorough process – it wasn’t like a one-man shortlist – but as soon as I met Chris, I knew he was a great fit for the club.
“I thought his style of play would really suit us and I knew the intensity of what he would bring would be a huge lift for everybody. Without doubt, Chris was the right man for the job.”
Another responsibility of the Director of Football is to retain some continuity in the backroom staff, rather than changing them every time the manager changes, Scott added.
“If Chris does fantastic and Manchester United want to take him, he’s going to take key staff with him, there’s nothing you can do about that," he said.
“But there has to be a nucleus of staff behind that stay and help build a mentality within the club, so if there is a shift, we’re just replacing certain key staff within a structure that remains constant. That’s definitely an area where I’m still working hard to get the balance right.”
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WoodallServices
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What Kieran Scott does is whisper in Neil Bauser’s ear………”Keep schtum, but there’s this gem of a player at so and so who if we get in quick we should get for £1-1.5 million”………… MFC then proceeds to shout to the world that we have £25million burning a hole in our pockets and we need this, that and the other positions filling, the result being said ’gem“ is now available without the decimal point
between the 1 and the 5!!
between the 1 and the 5!!
Both Wilder and Scott emphasise that Keiran Scott is all about putting in place a long term strategy at the club. So, even after Wilder leaves the next manager comes in and will be recruited to fit into a system. They will have a policy of the type of players signed, fees paid, a system of play on the field. And a wage structure. It is all going to be for the long term isnt it so you no longer chop and change every time you have a new manager.
Surely then it makes sense that signings may well have been on the radar a long time. I really hope that the recent signings prove to be a big success. This is a very big shake up at Boro and the loss of a key player in Tav is really being felt at the moment. It is a very disapointing start yet we have some real purple patches in games. Can the new players help make a big difference? I hope so.
Surely then it makes sense that signings may well have been on the radar a long time. I really hope that the recent signings prove to be a big success. This is a very big shake up at Boro and the loss of a key player in Tav is really being felt at the moment. It is a very disapointing start yet we have some real purple patches in games. Can the new players help make a big difference? I hope so.
Middlesbrough123
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If your Referring to my post my comment was more a reference to the club as whole , we don’t seem to have had much luck with foreign lads coming in of late . Rightly or wrongly I always have higher hopes when we sign someone from abroad especially when we pay good money from them rather than just take a punt .Lets get the facts straight before anyone reels off a list of names and "blames" Kieran Scott!
Its that "blame culture" rearing its head again!
Martin Payero`s signature had been agreed before Kieran Scott took up his role.
See: https://www.footballinsider247.com/...-advanced-talks-to-sign-payero-from-atletico/
[7th July 2021]
Andraz Sporar arrived at Boro at the end of August 2021 - before Kieran Scott took up his post.
See:Sporar joins Boro with point to prove after tough Sporting spell
PortuGOAL's Tom Kundert offers expert insight into Middlesbrough new boy Andraz Sporar
James Lea Siliki joined Boro on loan in August 2021 - before Kieran Scott took up his new post at Boro.
Siliki was reported to be joining Boro before Kieran Scott had taken up his job at Boro.
See: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.c...reement-with-rennes-to-sign-james-lea-siliki/ [26th August 2021]
Kieran Scott was appointed Director of Football and commenced his job at the beginning of September [September 2021].
See:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Middlesbrough's new head of football pledges to 'put some life back' into the club
MIDDLESBROUGH’S new head of football has pledged to “put some life back” into the club’s off-field operations after taking up his role at…
https://trainingground.guru/articles/kieran-scott-director-of-football-‘controls-what-future-looks-like’
Kieran Scott: Director of Football ‘controls what future looks like’
Articles / Leadership/ Middlesbrough
Scott was appointed Head of Football in August 2021* [Started his job at the beginning of September 2021]
Written by Training Ground Guru — January 16, 2022
MIDDLESBROUGH Head of Football Kieran Scott says his job is to “control what the future looks like”.
The 38-year-old joined Boro in August last year from Norwich City, where he was their Head of Recruitment. His title at the Riverside is the unusual one of Head of Football, although the role is actually akin to that of the more common Sporting Director or Director of Football.
“For me, the key area for a Director of Football is the ins and outs of player transfers,” Scott told The Northern Echo. “You’ve got to look at the squad and be able to control what the future looks like.
“You’ve got players coming in from the Academy and you’ve got to make sure the path stays clear for them, and then you’ve also got your sales and purchases. You’re trying to put square pegs in square holes all the time, whether that’s an internal player or an external player that you’re recruiting.”
He explained where he comes in in the recruitment process.
“In terms of signing a player, my role really comes in right at the end, and that’s the deal,” he said. “Of course, I need to see the players and agree they’re right for the club and that the manager is on board, but the shortlisting and scouting, and the early part of the work, is done by the recruitment team underneath.
“We’ve started the process of appointing a new Head of Recruitment (a position that has been vacant since 2019), and they’ll come to me for what will effectively be the end of the process, where we can then work together and make the deals happen.”
Scott’s first big job at Boro was to help appoint a new manager after Neil Warnock was sacked in November. Former Sheffield United boss Chris Wilder came in after a "thorough process".
“It wasn’t necessarily a case of the previous manager leaving straight away, but it was clearly going to happen at some stage,” Scott said. I’d witnessed what was going on, on the pitch and on the training ground, and by the end I think there was just an acceptance that it needed new blood and new energy. It needed some new life, and for me, that meant a new manager.
“It was my job to identify candidates and analyse whether they’d be a good fit for Middlesbrough. It was clear Chris fitted the bill as to what we needed. We went through a thorough process – it wasn’t like a one-man shortlist – but as soon as I met Chris, I knew he was a great fit for the club.
“I thought his style of play would really suit us and I knew the intensity of what he would bring would be a huge lift for everybody. Without doubt, Chris was the right man for the job.”
Another responsibility of the Director of Football is to retain some continuity in the backroom staff, rather than changing them every time the manager changes, Scott added.
“If Chris does fantastic and Manchester United want to take him, he’s going to take key staff with him, there’s nothing you can do about that," he said.
“But there has to be a nucleus of staff behind that stay and help build a mentality within the club, so if there is a shift, we’re just replacing certain key staff within a structure that remains constant. That’s definitely an area where I’m still working hard to get the balance right.”
r00fie1
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Good afternoon.
No it wasnt.
Redwurzel
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To me Scott's influence is 2022 onwards, what happened in 2021 was not him.
He must be influencing this Summer's signings and it takes between 3 and 6 months to judge them as a general rule.
Bernie Slaven was a classic example for me - in his first 6 months he lacked any sort of pace, his reaction times were slow too, he struggled to head the ball and at times look disconnected with the rest of the team. To his credit he tried and had scored a few goals. He didn't look a Div 2 (Championship forward) say in Feb 1986 after signing in September 1985.
Over the next 7 years he went on to be one of our top modern goal scorers, helping with 3 promotions and played for ROI at the 1990 World Cup.
He must be influencing this Summer's signings and it takes between 3 and 6 months to judge them as a general rule.
Bernie Slaven was a classic example for me - in his first 6 months he lacked any sort of pace, his reaction times were slow too, he struggled to head the ball and at times look disconnected with the rest of the team. To his credit he tried and had scored a few goals. He didn't look a Div 2 (Championship forward) say in Feb 1986 after signing in September 1985.
Over the next 7 years he went on to be one of our top modern goal scorers, helping with 3 promotions and played for ROI at the 1990 World Cup.
Middlesbrough123
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For a DOF to have an noticeable influence we need some stability with the managerial position. The end result would be something shared amongst all those involving . We are just laying the foundations now.
StanleySmith
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Surely a big part of Scott’s brief is to identify young players we can buy relatively cheaply…with a view to us developing them and making them better players we can then sell on at a profit.
Corcaigh_the_Cat
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Read his interview above.
Ravs
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Something makes me think we’re going to be pulling out his DOF job description zillions of times over the coming years
Nobby_Barnes
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Funky_Chicken
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I’m afraid i’ve got a lot on at the moment NobbyThere is another option (Cough Cough)
Nobby_Barnes
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Someone's got to do the rota at Majestic Wines Northallerton I suppose
