Well ain't Keir Starmer a grand man...

Randy said:
Anyone with half a brain cell knew we would be paying for it last year.

Or should they have just sat on their hands and let looting take over once everybody had ran out of money?

What other choice would any government have if they forced the country to close?
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This Rishi special deal furlough scheme, sit at home for a year on full wages and get yourself another job if you want?

Mmmm.
 
BoroMart said:
Oh dear Chris, you do understand that the "..." means that his actual statement has been chopped up for nefarious reasons.


What he ACTUALLY said was "Moving parts of the Treasury to Darlington, creating a few freeports and re-announcing funding. That isn't levelling up, that is giving up.".

His comment wasn't anti-darlington, it was that throwing the north a few scraps isn't enough, and you know what HE IS BLOODY RIGHT.

Now I would like to know why Peter Gibson is being so dishonest with his tweet, ah because he is a Tory!
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Does the full quote make any difference? The '...' just means there was more, as you've quoted. I don't see that CTR was trying to claim otherwise was he?

I don't see why it's "giving up" either? You say "a few scraps", but at least it's a start in the right direction in terms of some positivity for the North East.
 
Imagine thinking this out of context quote is far, far worse than any of the crap that has came out of some Tory MPs over the last 12 months, and that doesn't even include the PM who you could fill a whole joke book up with his one liners.
 
I think the real issue here is that the increase in taxation directly corresponds to the government's (mis)management of the situation.

Pretty clear to me that if we'd handled things differently the bill would be significantly smaller - that's what sticks in all this. Track and Trace being a prime example - why am I on the hook for a botched procurement and supplier who can't deliver. In the real world those monies would have been clawed back in court for non-delivery surely?
 
LaPennaBianca said:
It's literally the third reply to this thread
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It isn't though. No one has really explained why making some positive moves to benefit the North East is "giving up"?

BoroMart mentions "throwing the North a few scraps", but surely at least it's a start.

Moving parts of the Treasury to Darlington, creating a few freeports and re-announcing funding is positive. Hopefully it's just the start of a continuing process.
 
I'm pretty sure most of you are right about what was meant, but I would have thought Keir Starmer would have chosen his words a little more carefully.

I don't think - in his position - it's very helpful to be providing ammo for the other side.
 
Cuthbert said:
Does the full quote make any difference? The '...' just means there was more, as you've quoted. I don't see that CTR was trying to claim otherwise was he?

I don't see why it's "giving up" either? You say "a few scraps", but at least it's a start in the right direction in terms of some positivity for the North East.
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Keir Starmer is talking about levelling up the whole country from the South West to the North East. Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland included. Whilst it is good news for the North East we shouldn't allow ourselves to become parochial when it comes to equality.

The towns fund is a prime example, heavily weighted in favour of towns with a sitting Tory MP.
That approach and attitude is not levelling up.

Folk criticise Starmer for not attacking this Government's inequitable policies aggressively enough so me being happy for the region while supporting the general thrust of his criticism is not mutually exclusive.
 
How will it all be paid for? Well for a start, higher earners will pay an extra £826 per year in Income Tax.
Those on Universal Credit will lose £20 PER WEEK- same old Tories.
By the way- The taxes increased in this budget are the highest since the Tory government of 1993- after 14 previous years of Tory rule.
Since then we have had a Labour government that actually got the country into the black before the banks ran amok.
 
BoroFur said:
Keir Starmer is talking about levelling up the whole country from the South West to the North East. Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland included. Whilst it is good news for the North East we shouldn't allow ourselves to become parochial when it comes to equality.

The towns fund is a prime example, heavily weighted in favour of towns with a sitting Tory MP.
That approach and attitude is not levelling up.

Folk criticise Starmer for not attacking this Government's inequitable policies aggressively enough so me being happy for the region while supporting the general thrust of his criticism is not mutually exclusive.
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I agree with you. It just seemed like a few positive steps in the right direction. Hopefully with much more to follow.

Starmer should certainly criticise the government, but I still don't see why it's "giving up" - If he'd have said it wasn't enough, or needed to be just the start it would have made more sense to me than giving up.
 
Trug said:
How will it all be paid for? Well for a start, higher earners will pay an extra £826 per year in Income Tax.
Those on Universal Credit will lose £20 PER WEEK- same old Tories.
By the way- The taxes increased in this budget are the highest since the Tory government of 1993- after 14 previous years of Tory rule.
Since then we have had a Labour government that actually got the country into the black before the banks ran amok.
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Do you have a source for that figure of £826? I'd like to use it myself but I want it to be water tight.
 
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