1finny
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Maybe
But they will have to travel a long way to see their son plays footy.
He has had a great season deserves his chance in the Prem and I hope he gets it and thrives.
We must keep Chuba. (#KEEPCHUBA).
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Maybe
But they will have to travel a long way to see their son plays footy.
He has had a great season deserves his chance in the Prem and I hope he gets it and thrives.
alanmoodysdog
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History tells us we sell if a player in his last year and he wont accept new one
Bigstrongman
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Let’s be honest here, Chuba isn’t ‘loving it here’
He’s just here like any other player under contract
This time last year no fans wanted him, the club couldn’t sell him. People say he’s loved here (which really p1sses me off) …. Of course he is now he’s scored the most goals in a Boro shirt I’ve ever seen. He’d be ‘loved’ at any club scoring that amounts of goals.
Am I wrong that his family still live in London?
If I was him and that’s the situation I’d be looking to leave.
Can’t fault him really if he goes. But the balls in our court. £25m considering the stupid prices getting flown about lately
He’s just here like any other player under contract
This time last year no fans wanted him, the club couldn’t sell him. People say he’s loved here (which really p1sses me off) …. Of course he is now he’s scored the most goals in a Boro shirt I’ve ever seen. He’d be ‘loved’ at any club scoring that amounts of goals.
Am I wrong that his family still live in London?
If I was him and that’s the situation I’d be looking to leave.
Can’t fault him really if he goes. But the balls in our court. £25m considering the stupid prices getting flown about lately
Doesnt mean anything to them as it would to most of us. Footballers are a commodity, Chuba has no ties to Middlesbrough so he will do whats in his best long term interest
Ex Footy Legs
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29 goals ? If he got just 18-20 next season he’d be worth turning down 15m for 100m in the premier league.
Totally disagree with your thought process or logic….if we accepted every offer for our best players we’d be in league one or two!
Who is the man who got him there? You mean Chuba himself right?
Ex Footy Legs
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And I’m saying, if someone is smart (not money hungry) then he’d think about having plenty of money with an excellent extended contract with boro and the promise of more if we get promoted versus taking all the money now and risk being a bit part player in the premier league and in years time he will have plenty of cash but no career at 30/31 years old
parmoboy
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Tav was our best player last season. We sold him for £15m and ended up finishing 4th in the division. We actually finished higher than we did the previous season.
Most of our players won't attract any interest from other clubs this summer. Our best players were loanees.
If the club feels the price is right Chuba will be sold. It's sad but that's the sad reality of being a Championship club who no longer have parachute payments to fall back on.
Too many potential variables that could mess that up for him. Bird in the hand is the better advice so if he gets an offer from a prem club that pays him maybe £50-60k over three years then he would be wise to take it while he can over a if but maybe in a years time. That all said he represents a gamble for any prem team to sign him
festa5
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Let's be honest he is.
He's talked at length about it, he doesn't have to do that. It's probably as much to do with Carrick as anything else (he's talked a lot about that too) but he is definitely loving it here.
That doesn't necessarily mean he won't be leaving though. He can love it here all he likes but if a premier league club come in he's going to double his wages (and get to play in the premier League).
I don't think many would be turning that down if they get the chance. It's a short career.
TeaCider
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Wouldn't blame him if he wanted to move on, he was treated shoddily for his first 2 years here and I doubt he'll have forgotten being made to train with the kids.
But at the same time, almost everyone involved in those 2 years is gone and he's had the best season he'll have in his career, and the fans love adore him.
Obviously he's not daft and he'll know that it's because he's doing well, but it's still bound to be the most positive season he's had in terms of fan interactions.
Hopefully we can convince him to sign an extension, and go from there.
We were quite happy to let him go for next to nothing in the summer, so I'm not sure why we'd have to bow to the pressure to sell now that he's our most important player.
Obviously if he's dead set on a move, at least we'll have made a sizeable profit.
But at the same time, almost everyone involved in those 2 years is gone and he's had the best season he'll have in his career, and the fans love adore him.
Obviously he's not daft and he'll know that it's because he's doing well, but it's still bound to be the most positive season he's had in terms of fan interactions.
Hopefully we can convince him to sign an extension, and go from there.
We were quite happy to let him go for next to nothing in the summer, so I'm not sure why we'd have to bow to the pressure to sell now that he's our most important player.
Obviously if he's dead set on a move, at least we'll have made a sizeable profit.
Mayor Goldie Wilson
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Another way of looking at this is which players are assets, financially? Akpom certainly, Hackney possibly. Other than that no other players would we get more than £5m for I'd say. So looking at it that way, if the club receive an approach from a Premier League club offering £15m plus and we fancy the money to help our rebuild, it will only go one way.
Smogonsea
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I’d be surprised if we got £15m for Akpom. He has had an amazing season with us and I would love him to stay. But put yourself in his shoes. He’s 27 and probably only has a few years left playing. If he can get a big money move to the premier league which would set him and his family up to live comfortably he would be daft not to do it.
I think it would be more like £10m with add ons regarding goals scored etc. but still a great deal for boro who couldn’t give him away this time last year.
I think it would be more like £10m with add ons regarding goals scored etc. but still a great deal for boro who couldn’t give him away this time last year.
Druss_The_Legend
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I don't know whether this has already been shared. I can't decide whether that means excited for the future here or elsewhere.
Yes 29 goals, Not sure why you would question that. He did play in the F.A. Cup too
Well I think your logic is somewhat flawed. Firstly the club would not accept every offer for any player, nobody has ever said it would, so you made that up to over-egg your view. However, It would accept every very good offer though if it was in the clubs best interest. I am sure the chairman would use some of the money from any sale of any player to reinvest In other talent, so no it would not mean we would be playing in leagues 1 or 2, thats just a nonsensical assumption on your part. The squad is not currently looking too clever. I have no doubt it will be added to whatever happens to Chuba, but if you think he comes with a guarantee, well you’d be wrong, nobody does.
As I say, there are no guarantees in football look at Rudy Gestede and his marvellous season at Blackburn. Chuba could get a serious injury, players signed may not create the opportunities he had this year, he himself may be less clinical (see his last few games). Of course it is possible he could also get 18 goals and fire us to promotion, but nothing is certain, nothing. We have a huge rebuild, needing 10 players minimum to cover the squad, some of those will need to be purchases, one or two may come fom the U/21’s who knows, but the squad will be massively different I would think and with that comes the unknown.
The club has huge debts, albeit to Gibson O’Neill, Gibson will have to spend, I doubt he will want debt rising much In the current economic climate. Trade offs will be needed. If a club takes a chance on Chuba for a decent fee, £15M+ it would be in the best interests of Chuba and MFC to deal imho. Premier League loans are never assured successes. The transfer window ‘slams shut’ 1 September 23, PL teams often make late decisions on players leaving on loan in case of injuries or transfer movements in their squads. We are likely to have played 5-6 games by then so need bodies through the door by end of July where possible, it will be a fresh start and teams usually take time to gel where significant change is made.
newusername
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Every club is a selling club.
indeedido
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I think it is anything but a no brainer.
It is an extremely complex problem.
Akpom is far and away the best player on our books. 28 league goals is once a generation at Boro. He represents our best chance of promotion and a minimum £170m additional revenue.
Yet he is not guaranteed to score or play as well again and even if he does, there is no guarantee that will lead to promotion.
He should command a fee of at least £25m given the goals he has scored.
Yet he is in the final year of his contract and is 28.
He could leave without a fee in 12 months regardless of how he/we do, meaning a huge financial gain missed.
Yet his goals would cost a fortune to replace and who on earth would we sign.
He could be a huge draw to other players wanting to join.
Yet really it is the PL clubs who decide where their loan players go.
He loves it here and is a key part of a great squad ethic, you can't buy that togetherness and we don't want too much disruption.
Yet he is just one player and we are already turning over 6 loans and 4 other squad players, minimum.
Akpom is fit and strong and will always make himself available.
Yet he could get injured for the season on Sept 1st.
Akpom should stay where he is loved, with the manager who "made" him and where he is the main man. He should sign a new contract at Boro for £30k per week.
Yet a PL deal will pay easily double that and the money will set him up for life. He doesn't owe MFC anything after the season he has had.
Sell at the "right" price could be "right". But right is particularly subjective in this case.
It is not a no brainer.
S7DiscoDown
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He's apparently on 27k a week and already one of our big earners. So how much higher can we really go?
I'm still not convinced he's worth a new 3-4 year deal on mega bucks. He's just had the season of his life at 27 (28?). That's not worth throwing everything at.
I genuinely think 15mil+ and we'd seriously have to consider cashing in.
I'm still not convinced he's worth a new 3-4 year deal on mega bucks. He's just had the season of his life at 27 (28?). That's not worth throwing everything at.
I genuinely think 15mil+ and we'd seriously have to consider cashing in.
No, it is a no brainer.
Any scenario where Boro don't win promotion is a disaster because he'll leave an Boro don't get any transfer fee.
Any scenario where he doesn't have a great season is a disaster because Boro don't get any transfer fee.
A club that's losing £12 to £15 million annually on its day to day operations just can't turn down a transfer fee like he would bring.
indeedido
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I'm so pleased you are not making the decision.
You seem to discount the scenario where Middlesbrough are promoted. I don't and am absolutely certain Steve Gibson won't be either.
I'm not saying that there is no way he should be sold, just saying it is a very difficult situation to manage.