Spot onNorthern Gas.
Spot onNorthern Gas.
Utilities and transport, none of it should be privatised, but once the genie is out of the bottle it's very difficult to get it back.Some things should not be privatised. Water being the most obvious one from the amount of shy te that we now pump into the sea. Its a national embarrassment and disgrace. Here we are trying to preach to other countries on climate change and green energy, meanwhile we pump the sea & rivers full of our turds.
Electric's the same also, the only one that isn't is telecom but that's only really two main provider options.It's no different from the Gas Industry. If there ever is a trnasition to H2 it'll be paid through higher bills, the owners and shareholders will see zero impact on their risk free massive returns.
3x the volume of Natural Gas to burn to make the same amount of energy with Hydrogen as Natural Gas.Electric's the same also, the only one that isn't is telecom but that's only really two main provider options.
They should have been put on 3-5 year competitive tenders, and had to commit to maintenance and a certain percentage of upgrades.
Hydrogen won't happen, the cost of the infrastructure would be ludicrous compared to any other service like water, gas, electric and telecom and it will probably end up even more expensive than new sewerage and with a shorter life.
Yeah, nationalisation is only good when good (or fairly good) people are running the nation, which 2/3rds of the time certainly aren't.The trouble with things being nationalised is that they then end up on the government's balance sheet. Which will then run said services into the ground.
Is that factoring in that we need to use electricity to make it too? We won't have enough spare capacity to do that until we've completely done away with gas, so any scheme which makes hydrogen from it's own renewables should instead be just using renewables to replace gas altogether.3x the volume of Natural Gas to burn to make the same amount of energy with Hydrogen as Natural Gas.
Just the stupid of concepts.
All of the proposed schemes have done a HS2 and the books have been fiddled to show at least 3x the true cost of the pipelines/plants etc.
One huge CON on which £100s millions of taxpayers money has already been spunked.
They won't; they'll just get someone in like capita to run it. Who will then run services into the ground.The trouble with things being nationalised is that they then end up on the government's balance sheet. Which will then run said services into the ground.
Andy - I obviously dont know the tech about the infrastructure, but in an ideal world, what could be put in place asap to stop Windermere dying and Cumbrian Water filling it with schit and pzz. Its a disgraceful state of affairs ?As Martin Lewis says, it wasn't so much the privatisation, it was doing it without competition, that was never going to work.
I think the water companies have paid out something like 60bn in dividends since it was privatised in the early 90's under the Tories. Dividends shouldn't have been anywhere near that figure without a hell of a lot more reinvestment. The execs are being paid 1m a year wages too, plus divvies/ bonuses, and standards have got no better, so what is the bonus for?
The problem is, now they have accepted they need the reinvestment there's no way to get that 60bn back, so the public will end up paying.
Part of my job is redesigning sewers, for easier solutions and I can understand that they have a tough task doing it, as a lot of the UK is on combined sewers and the heavier storms (climate change) etc basically cause capacity to be overwhelmed, way above what it was designed for, so some overflows get used more and more, along with additional population adding to this etc.
New houses keep the surface water and foul water separate and go to extreme lengths to do it, they have to do by law/ planning regs. Systems should largely be separate for housing built from the 70's onwards, but it was ages before they actually limited (reduced flow) the problem causing rainwater going into sewers, and I've only noticed a major difference in the last 10 years on new builds. Nearly every new estate in the last 10 years either sends surface water straight to a stream/ river, or stores it on-site in attenuation tanks or SUDS ponds and lets it out into the existing sewer system as a trickle. These systems are designed to take a 100-year storm event, plus 20%. The sewer companies get given all the infrastructure installed by developers for free too!
Upgrading or adding major sewers through towns is a nightmare mind, as they often need to be 3-10m deep as gravity systems, and have had 50-100 years of other services put over the top of them or have those services above where these new pipes need to go. It's certainly not simple or cheap.
They will probably end up relining and converting a lot of the old combined systems to surface water only, and will end up just pumping the foul water in new pipes, as pumped systems are far cheaper and easier to install, and much smaller pipe sizes.
This is spot on.They won't; they'll just get someone in like capita to run it. Who will then run services into the ground.
I'm sure the government are all over it and have plans in place. What are you thinking? Peerages in exchange for cushy non-executive director roles with a nice shares / dividends package?There should be direct action taken agaisnt the CEOs of these companies
The whole issue would need to be investigated, its not just the treated effluent that is legally discharged in the the environment. The biggest pollution to our rivers and lakes is from nutrients, ie phosphate and nitrates, which is the result of years and years of fertiliser application by the agriculture industry. this is what causes the alge to grow. Remember, there is no new water in the world, its all been used before so we really need to take good care of the water resources. We have seen the panic last year when the weather is hot and water in the Uk is restricted. Recently a couple of planning applications for new reservoirs in the south have been the subject of local opposition and not been improved. Its even more important that we keep our rivers clean.Andy - I obviously dont know the tech about the infrastructure, but in an ideal world, what could be put in place asap to stop Windermere dying and Cumbrian Water filling it with schit and pzz. Its a disgraceful state of affairs ?
The short video I posted in this thread earlier highlights the issues identified by a local man who has taken samples and has researched the problem in detail.The whole issue would need to be investigated, its not just the treated effluent that is legally discharged in the the environment. The biggest pollution to our rivers and lakes is from nutrients, ie phosphate and nitrates, which is the result of years and years of fertiliser application by the agriculture industry. this is what causes the alge to grow. Remember, there is no new water in the world, its all been used before so we really need to take good care of the water resources. We have seen the panic last year when the weather is hot and water in the Uk is restricted. Recently a couple of planning applications for new reservoirs in the south have been the subject of local opposition and not been improved. Its even more important that we keep our rivers clean.
The problem with Cumbria is it rains a lot, so any worse storms caused by climate change etc impact those areas more, so they're going to have more to fix, just for that reason alone. Also the ground conditions are absolutely awful almost everywhere we've worked in Cumbria, and the roads are really narrow, which makes installing new infrastructure very hard, time-consuming and complex. Some places only have like one road, so you can't close it off, as there's no other way in, and people whinge like crazy when things are trying to get sorted out for them.Andy - I obviously dont know the tech about the infrastructure, but in an ideal world, what could be put in place asap to stop Windermere dying and Cumbrian Water filling it with schit and pzz. Its a disgraceful state of affairs ?
They also own the Port of Felixstowe. The company is one family based in Hong Kong.Never knew that, makes a lot of sense though actually going off experience working with them both.