VAR

[Yobbo1]

I know that there are issues with it BUT they are minor relative the refereeing standards in the championship. I think that if VAR was in place this season we would have at least 9 more points which would have put us comfortably in the playoff picture . Today's refereeing display must not happen going forward. The answer is VAR!

 

[TeaCider]

We've already seen that VAR has given awful decisions and failed to overturn awful decisions, if the referees are rubbish they don't improve with one of them watching a little screen.

 

[FabioPorkpie]

As awful as the decisions were, I still wouldn’t be wanting VAR. Hate it stealing the spontaneity of goal celebration and the very thing that makes football magic. I’d rather keep that magic and moan about bad referees than lose that magic and moan about bad VAR decisions.

 

[Colgates_shaving_foam]

Goal, quick glance at the flag, celebrate.

The VAR is only a human and keeps making it worse

 

[Raul]

VAR is exactly what the championship needs with the pathetic officials that are in it

But I would make some changes to how it currently operates

1, Day light for offside and if a part of the body you can not score with (arm) is beyond the last defender then it’s not offside

2, Refs should not be in charge of VAR, if you are a ref then you are a ref and if you are a VAR official then that’s all you do.

3, To become a VAR official you need to be qualified, to tests as you do to become a ref but not necessarily have been a ref.

The reason for this is I believe The Refs have a little union to protect each other and ultimately see VAR as the end of their profession

As we have seen this season though we have had our players seriously injured with no repercussion, clear penalties not been given which has cost points and legitimate goals not
Given

There is to much at stake for these pathetic excuse for officials

 

[bear66]

Two late celebrations yesterday would have been nice.

VAR isn't the answer to poor officials but is usefully used in sports with better officials. I see no problem with VAR, but something needs to be done to improve infield decisions.

 

[newyddion]

Two late celebrations yesterday would have been nice.

VAR isn't the answer to poor officials but is usefully used in sports with better officials. I see no problem with VAR, but something needs to be done to improve infield decisions.

VAR needs to be improved and needs to be implemented in the championship. The refs are no where near good enough, shockingly bad. They are getting much worse.

Also what is the 4th official there for? It seems like they just stand there getting stick off the coaches. Can the 4th official not be the one reviewing video evidence then communicate to the ref to overturn decisions if necessary? Like a VAR controller (with the much needed tolerances)

 

[Pak_Doo_Ik]

I think it could be improved by asking assistant referees to go back to doing their job properly and flagging if they feel somebody is offside. If the VAR call is then marginally for something like offside then you go with the original decision, a bit like umpires call in cricket. Sure you will still get the odd decision that is wrong but it will cut on the terrible decisions. Obviously this would mean changing the offside law to one that makes sense.

VAR in essence is a good idea, it just needs implementing correctly and some of the laws need fine tuning now we have it, such as handball (we either go back to accepting accidental handball is part of the game or it isn't, if it is, accept that once every blue moon a goal will be scored like Augueros a few years ago accidentally with a hand).

 

[changingman]

100% yes for me. Far too much at stake in this division to carry on with the current charade.

 

[dooderooni]

No.
Hawkeye and VAR were brought in because of decisions like Lampards 'non-goal' in the World Cup and the ever growing attempts to influence the referees.
It brought with it a raft of tweaked laws in order to justify having it, such as letting the play go and then reviewing it via VAR.
Call me old fashioned, but it is no substitute for an officiating team that can do their job and not be influenced by the players on the pitch.
The lack of fans due to the pandemic has highlighted just how much influence the players have over the game as it is now played out to a soundtrack of screams, yells and whelps at any sort of contact.
Officials have a hard job, but improving their decision making ability and making them more aware of how to block out the interference is far more preferable than providing them with more technology and safety nets to bail them out.

 

[Redwurzel]

At present for me VAR spoils games as much as it helps. Some decisions are still very much subjective.

This season we would have had more points with VAR, but this season could be just a fluke.

There needs to be more agreement on how to interpret rules.

Also I would change the offside rule to clear light between attacker and defender thse decisions based on toe caps are crazy and don't allow for differences between video frames. For hand ball the hand and/or have to be in unnatural position for it to be hand ball - you can't run with your hands behind your back.

 

[Scrote]

I would change the offside rule to clear light between attacker and defender

This just moves the position that gets measured. What is clear light? 1mm? 1cm? 1 inch?

For hand ball the hand and/or have to be in unnatural position for it to be hand ball - you can't run with your hands behind your back.

Where is the distinction between natural and unnatural?

Anything that includes a sliding-scale is a problem for VAR. It always comes down to a person making a decision.

There are ways to improve VAR but currently it's an abomination and should be scrapped; not introduced into more leagues.

 

[Nero]

Has anyone attempted to referee a game? I’ve done it a couple of times for my son’s team and it’s not easy. I was lucky it was only friendly games and still struggled with it.

VAR once developed will be good and must be in the Championship too.

 

[Muttley]

Even after watching yesterdays master class in ineptitude I wouldn't want VAR in the Championship. I'd rather we lost 9 points every season frankly.

If it really must be in place it should be "challenge based" so the onfield captain or the coach (take your pick not bothered who) can ask for a decision to be reviewed and that is limited to one challenge each half to be lost in the case of an incorrect challenge.

 

[TeaCider]

I don't trust that VAR would overturn either of those decisions yesterday.

Any contact, no matter how slight, and they'll do their best not to undermine the ref's original decision.
Bolasie was fouled, but he did touch their player, Saville was fouled but he didn't get enough contact on the ball.

 

[Pak_Doo_Ik]

I don't trust that VAR would overturn either of those decisions yesterday.

Any contact, no matter how slight, and they'll do their best not to undermine the ref's original decision.
Bolasie was fouled, but he did touch their player, Saville was fouled but he didn't get enough contact on the ball.

In my humble opinion, the disallowed goal would have certainly been given with VAR, the ref disallowed because he thought the Swansea player had got to the ball first, (hence the scream and holding of his ankle), the penalty would also have stood at the end as there wasn't enough evidence to overturn it. The injustice of the second decision stems from the first, what could be argued is having had to admit his mistake from the first incident, does the ref give the penalty for the second one?

 

[davidmills]

I don't trust that VAR would overturn either of those decisions yesterday.

Any contact, no matter how slight, and they'll do their best not to undermine the ref's original decision.
Bolasie was fouled, but he did touch their player, Saville was fouled but he didn't get enough contact on the ball.

“Saville was fouled but he didn't get enough contact on the ball.”

please explain?

if he is fouled it is a foul and so doesn’t matter about contact on the ball.

 

[TeaCider]

“Saville was fouled but he didn't get enough contact on the ball.”

please explain?

if he is fouled it is a foul and so doesn’t matter about contact on the ball.

He was booted by the Swansea player, who connected with the ball by kicking through him, but the referee gave a penalty and I don't think that VAR would have overturned it as there isn't any conclusive evidence that Saville touched the ball before the Swansea player booted him.

I think they'd stick with Saville "impeding" their player.

 

[Muttley]

the disallowed goal would have certainly been given with VAR

No, it wouldn't because the ref had blown his whistle.

the penalty would also have stood at the end as there wasn't enough evidence to overturn it.

Amusingly, I think there is enough "evidence" to overturn it. Whether he would have done I doubt a quick trip to the monitor and point to the spot.