VAR making yet another mess of it

Pak_Doo_Ik said:
Not watching it but on the BBC text Carra say’s definitely not a penalty and our big Aussie said definitely a penalty.

Who’d be a ref eh🙈
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Exactly - people just want to kick up a VAR fuss.

This was a borderline decision (would be furious if it went against us), but this was nothing to do with VAR.
 
I just wish that the authorities had implemented the smart technology that was proposed that was going to mean that there were no more disputes about bad refereeing decisions, instead of VAR.

Then everybody would be happy and managers and the fans would be able to have respect for officials.
 
Ravshoutsatbeck said:
Exactly - people just want to kick up a VAR fuss.

This was a borderline decision (would be furious if it went against us), but this was nothing to do with VAR.
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I don’t want to kick up a VAR fuss. I’m pointing out another incorrect decision. I foolishly thought that this message board was for such discussion but maybe not.

Anyway, it is as clear as day that in order to get in front of his man Haaland fouls him. The penalty was incorrectly given and should have been overturned.
 
My main issue with VAR is how it seems to take over the whole game. I'd go down the cricket route. Each team has two reviews a game. Review upheld, you retain, review denied, you lose.
 
BobendBert said:
I don’t want to kick up a VAR fuss. I’m pointing out another incorrect decision. I foolishly thought that this message board was for such discussion but maybe not.

Anyway, it is as clear as day that in order to get in front of his man Haaland fouls him. The penalty was incorrectly given and should have been overturned.
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There’s no way either decision is as clear as day. If one of our players had done what Haaland did and then scored we would’ve been furious if it had been disallowed. And if that penalty had been given against us, we would have been equally furious. Both were marginal. And that’s your problem. In the world of far too many fans, there is no such thing as a marginal decision. Everything is clear as day as either a nailed on foul or never a foul in a million years. No decisions are about someone else having a different opinion on something that could have gone either way, they’re all about someone else being a blind idiot.

There is one sense in which you are creating a VAR fuss though. What are you are actually disagreeing with is two decisions by the on field referee. Or at least, the first one. But you chose not to title the thread “on field ref making another mess of it”.
 
FishofContemplation said:
There’s no way either decision is as clear as day. If one of our players had done what Haaland did and then scored we would’ve been furious if it had been disallowed. And if that penalty had been given against us, we would have been equally furious. Both were marginal. And that’s your problem. In the world of far too many fans, there is no such thing as a marginal decision. Everything is clear as day as either a nailed on foul or never a foul in a million years. No decisions are about someone else having a different opinion on something that could have gone either way, they’re all about someone else being a blind idiot.

There is one sense in which you are creating a VAR fuss though. What are you are actually disagreeing with is two decisions by the on field referee. Or at least, the first one. But you chose not to title the thread “on field ref making another mess of it”.
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Because I’m happy for referees to make mistakes. I am a referee. What I’m not happy with is the interference of a system that was supposed to eradicate errors in the big decisions and instead has made things a lot worse.

This one is clear irrespective of any opinion. Haaland very very clearly and evidently pulls the lad back to get in front of him ergo it’s a foul. That isn’t a matter of opinion it’s a simple fact.
 
BobendBert said:
I don’t want to kick up a VAR fuss. I’m pointing out another incorrect decision. I foolishly thought that this message board was for such discussion but maybe not.

Anyway, it is as clear as day that in order to get in front of his man Haaland fouls him. The penalty was incorrectly given and should have been overturned.
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It wasn't a personal criticism.

I just think it should have been a debate on a 50:50 decision. I find every decision in the Premier league gets blamed on VAR - whether it was to blame or not.

No VAR same decision - I do not think it was wrong enough to overturn.
 
BobendBert said:
Because I’m happy for referees to make mistakes. I am a referee. What I’m not happy with is the interference of a system that was supposed to eradicate errors in the big decisions and instead has made things a lot worse.

This one is clear irrespective of any opinion. Haaland very very clearly and evidently pulls the lad back to get in front of him ergo it’s a foul. That isn’t a matter of opinion it’s a simple fact.
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This is the thing - I don't see how in this situation VAR has made things worse.
 
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