VAR - For or Against

How would you like to see VAR implemented?

  • Use VAR to the maximum to ensure correct decision including marginal decisions

    Votes: 9 9.3%
  • Make on-field decisions and only use VAR to overturn clear and obvious errors

    Votes: 37 38.1%
  • Throw VAR in the bin

    Votes: 51 52.6%

  • Total voters
    97

B_G

Well-known member
After yesterday's FA cup fiasco, interested to see where fmttm stand as a whole on VAR.
Limiting the options in the poll so choose the one that closest represents your views.

EDIT - Aware there is a lot of VAR discussion in other threads today but new thread to start a vote..
 
I've gone for the middle option.....however I would say, pair it back to just factual decision making offsides / was an offence in or out the box. Leave it at that for 5 years and automate it. Then we can have this discussion again with a robust working and efficient process already running, and can see how best to expand the use of the technology in a anon-intrusive manner.
 
Can't stop thinking how I would feel as a Coventry fan today. The emotions they went through yesterday were off the scale. To have that goal ruled out must be so hard to take.
VAR was supposed to remove all debate and ensure the correct decision was always reached. It doesn't do that and so for that reason it should be binned so that we can get back to enjoying a game that is all about spontaneous moments of unbridled joy. To have those moments taken away because of a couple of mm is just wrong
 
Can't stop thinking how I would feel as a Coventry fan today. The emotions they went through yesterday were off the scale. To have that goal ruled out must be so hard to take.
VAR was supposed to remove all debate and ensure the correct decision was always reached. It doesn't do that and so for that reason it should be binned so that we can get back to enjoying a game that is all about spontaneous moments of unbridled joy. To have those moments taken away because of a couple of mm is just wrong
They shouldn't have had a penalty to equalise in the first place.
 
They shouldn't have had a penalty to equalise in the first place.
But that was referee's call wasn't it? That wasn't given by VAR.

Whether you think it was a pen or not at least the decision is being made by the one man in charge on the pitch. They'll always get some right and some wrong. Been that way for over 100yrs. My point is that the wrong decisions are still being made even with the farce that is VAR.

Look at the penatly that was given for Cov against the one that Chelsea didn't get. There are still inconsistencies so what is the point in it
 
I think it should be used for offsides every single time, so the main complaint people have won't go away until they speed up the process.

Semi-automated offsides will definitely do that.
 
But goal line technology works 99.99% of the time. Absolutely no reason to get rid of that
This one is often thrown back at people as a counter argument for VAR.

The thing with goal line technology is often the officials don't have a good view of it either because it's a long shot and are therefore not positioned in a place to view it or because it's a goal mouth scramble there are players in the way Lampard's as an example, the referee and assistant were nowhere near the goal line. Linesmen generally have a good view of an offside as they should be positioned along the line of the last defender at all times.

Also feedback from the technology is instant so there is no waiting around to wait for a decision like yesterday.

If linesmen got instant decision and were signalled to flag through VAR, I would be more inclined to accept it.
 
Can't stop thinking how I would feel as a Coventry fan today. The emotions they went through yesterday were off the scale. To have that goal ruled out must be so hard to take.
VAR was supposed to remove all debate and ensure the correct decision was always reached. It doesn't do that and so for that reason it should be binned so that we can get back to enjoying a game that is all about spontaneous moments of unbridled joy. To have those moments taken away because of a couple of mm is just wrong
but it did for the offside, no matter how harsh that may seem. the correct decision was reached. The handball is more of a point of debate, the handball rule and VAR usage to support it is a real dogs dinner.
 
There was always something to beat refs / linesman's with. Offside, fouls, handballs, ball over the line.......some they got right, some they got wrong. All part of the game.

So VAR......still getting calls wrong, or micro managing decisions to the 1/1000mm.

Goal line technology - works and can be checked quickly, this is fine. The 45 min break in play to see if a free kick should be awarded as a player has gone down in agony clutching his face.....bollox.
 
Definitely yes for offsides (including yesterday's) and goal line tech. I would like it to be only 'clear and obvious' for penalties but it is so hard to decide where the line is that maybe it should be totally removed. Or we need to train the VAR officials better and be clear on what the threshold is for overturning. It isn't like cricket where 'umpire's call' can be clearly defined.
 
Stops the referee corruption especially for the big clubs and the backhanders they received over many decades . They still seem to be still trying it on with the VAR judges and they have got away with one or two.

There's always been to much money in the game for corruption not to happen.
In the long run it will benefit the game imho.

So for it (y)
 
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We'll soon be at the point where the same is true for offside.
Is this really going to be the case? Would be able to accept it a lot more were this to happen but there's no way it will be as immediate as the goal line technology. You're still going to have those moments of fans celebrating a goal only for it to be ruled out
 
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