Two more people beheaded in France

TomPepper

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If there are people in there with this sort of mentality then you can probably say the vast majority there are at least in agreement. Would you stay at a church with people talking about committing atrocities and justifying it and encouraging it?
 

TomPepper

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Yup I said that, that is not what you accused me of. I was making the point that deporting people and closing mosques without due process, which is what you are advocating, could be considered radicalised Christian ethos.

That it's a million miles away from what you claimed I said.

I think it would be just seen by majority of sensible citizens as the authorities doing something about the problem that's getting worse and worse.
 

TomPepper

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I'm not saying all muslims are bad people and I dont believe that. I would have said the same thing about the IRA back then if I believed the issues were stemming from what was taught in the cathedrals
 

Artie Fufkin

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If there are people in there with this sort of mentality then you can probably say the vast majority there are at least in agreement.
I'm sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement. It's inflammatory, it's misguided, it's reactionary, it's pure conjecture.

To claim because one or a small group of individuals from a mosque have extreme views, everyone else does is frankly preposterous and simply wrong. To believe otherwise is very naive and blinkered
 
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TomPepper

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I'm sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement. It's inflammatory, it's misguided, it's reactionery, it's pure conjecture.

To claim because one or a small group of individuals from a mosque have extreme views, everyone else does is frankly preposterous and simply wrong. To believe otherwise is very naive and blinkered

I think to think that nobody in who knows these people who worships with them has any ideas they are radicals is very naive but there you go
 

Laughing

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I work in environment where I would guess 30% are Muslims. Every one I chat to are: funny, hard working, have never mentioned religion and decent. The IRA were murdering bstrds no one suggested we closed Cathedrals.
SaB I work for an Indian company and have many Muslim colleagues and friends, all invariably nice people.

Clearly though that is not the case for all. Is it the religion or is it the religion being used to control and empower terrorists by radicalization? I don't know, nor do I know what the answer is in containing and reversing the trend.
 

Chris_Boro

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Well if you look at the amount of atrocities committed in France are you telling me they are doing a good job? That's the evidence I need to say they are incompetent

Thats not what I asked. You're implying nothing is being done to tackle radicalisation or stop attacks.

You're approach is devoid of consequence and lacking in any form rational thought on the subject.
 

TomPepper

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Is it now the job of a football messageboard to offer solutions to complex political and cultural problems ???

What good do your "solutions" do, other than get yourself worked up and make you look a bit racist and hysterical on a messageboard ?

Racist to speak out against terrorism on a thread about it. Shut up you clown
 

TomPepper

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Thats not what I asked. You're implying nothing is being done to tackle radicalisation or stop attacks.

You're approach is devoid of consequence and lacking in any form rational thought on the subject.

What's the answer then if not a harder line?
 

Artie Fufkin

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I think to think that nobody in who knows these people who worships with them has any ideas they are radicals is very naive but there you go

I know enough people of Muslim faith to know that these atrocities are widely condemned by the Muslim community. Radical views are not the norm
 

TomPepper

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It's easy to throw big words about talking about complex societal issues it's all hogwash something needs to be done to stem this needless violence. Clearly what is being done is not enough I'm sure we can agree on that
 

TomPepper

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I know enough people of Muslim faith to know that these atrocities are widely condemned by the Muslim community. Radical views are not the norm

I completely agree but where it does manifest it needs dealing with and when it is being dealt with any reasonable muslim person would accept that.
 

Laughing

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I completely agree but where it does manifest it needs dealing with and when it is being dealt with any reasonable muslim person would accept that.
They won't accept it if the law isn't followed in dealing with the crime, and neither would I. You have subtly moved away from unprocessed deportation I think which is good to see.
 

Artie Fufkin

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I completely agree but where it does manifest it needs dealing with and when it is being dealt with any reasonable muslim person would accept that.
Its impossible to offer an answer, but I would hazard a guess that radicalisation is happening online, rather than in mosques

That's critical to even begin to understand how to eliminate extremism. The sad fact is, we simply cannot
 
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