Borehamwood_Boro
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We have been better than Sunderland for 20 years+. They were semi pro for 3 years! UTB
Times are bleak, but just remember,,,,,,,
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alanmoodysdog
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...we havnt got Bobby Thomson in the midfield like Murdoch had
Canyoudigit
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Sorry to be pedantic but wasn't Bobby Thomson a forward albeit an absolutely shocking excuse for a footballer.
alanmoodysdog
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no midfielder recomended by Jock stein to Bobby
Bobby Thomson (footballer, born 1955) - Wikipedia
Canyoudigit
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Memory must be playing tricks on me,maybe I was thinking of Ray Hankin, I used to think that era between 82 and 85 was as bad as it gets but the current crop are beginning to rival it.
Erimus74
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'canyoudigit, I've said for a while now to me in my 51 years following the Boro im now watching our worst ever Boro team & one of the 3 worst teams in this league
I feel for Michael Carrick, his 1st managerial job with a bunch of plodders, if hes good enough to rescue this rabble he'll do well in the game
LeeMiller
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Yep, by our standards this is an historically bad Boro team.
Canyoudigit
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Even in the dark days of the 80s.i always had a favourite player like Heine Otto,Stephen Bell ect,I don't have a favourite player at all now,they are all to put it bluntly rubbish.
Erimus74
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Mick Kenedy, Gary Hamilton, Heine Otto & Stephen Bell, as you mentioned, even Paul Ward would be an improvement in this present team
Remember when big Mal brought back Kevin Beattie, he only had one good keg, had been finished in the game & came back out of retirement but what a defender, he organised players around him & not once finished on a losing side in a game he started, we dont have anything like that
the_dormouse
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It is not even close to being as bad as the early eighties,we've had a bad start to the season not 5 bad years.There are over 20 thousand in a modern stadium not just over 5 in an old ground.Everbody is disappointed and angry not full of apathy like the whole town was then.We have a chairman who cares and puts his money where his mouth is not a bunch of schemers thinking of more ways to get more money out of the club for themselves.I know some of you are trolls and wind up merchants but others just shock me with their posts knocking our club.
Canyoudigit
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Whilst the crowds are absolutely superb and yes we have a very supportive chairman, the team itself is where it is in the league for a reason, we are not in a false position, we concede goals for fun and rarely look like scoring more than one(Wigan exc).
Whilst I wouldn't accuse the players of not trying, I don't see any running through a brick wall for our club,I don't see the hurt and frustration we as supporters are feeling.
Erimus74
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Forgot to mention the Dave Curries, Paul Sugrues, Tony Mowbrays of this world who play through those dire days infront of any of todays players who play in their position
r00fie1
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Morning Erimus.
I couldnt agree more. I mentioned a while back that the current situation reminds me of that same era: we had left the chard remains of a good side, with a few inexperienced youngsters. It was a horrible time to watch Boro - especially when we spent more time counting the missing on the empty terraces and the ever-declining attendances.
I found this piece: clutching at straws couldnt stop the slide>>>>
1985–86 Middlesbrough F.C. season
This period in the history of Middlesbrough is considered its most traumatic. The club was in financial difficulties which eventually led to liquidation in 1986 and the near loss of professional football on Teesside. At the end of 1985–86 season Boro were relegated to the old Third Division. By...
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Middlesbrough 1985-86.
Introduction:
This period in the history of Middlesbrough is considered its most traumatic. The club was in financial difficulties which eventually led to liquidation in 1986 and the near loss of professional football on Teesside. At the end of 1985–86 season Boro were relegated to the old Third Division. By then Willie Maddren was no longer manager. He was sacked with 13 games remaining, replaced by his assistant Bruce Rioch. Maddren is remembered for his astute signings. Bernie Slaven was signed from part-time football in Scotland to become a Middlesbrough legend. Maddren also brought youth team players through the ranks, including Colin Cooper and Stuart Ripley.
Abstract:
This period in the history of Middlesbrough is considered its most traumatic. The club was in financial difficulties which eventually led to liquidation in 1986 and the near loss of professional football on Teesside. At the end of 1985–86 season Boro were relegated to the old Third Division. By then Willie Maddren was no longer manager. He was sacked with 13 games remaining, replaced by his assistant Bruce Rioch. Maddren is remembered for his astute signings. Bernie Slaven was signed from part-time football in Scotland to become a Middlesbrough legend. Maddren also brought youth team players through the ranks, including Colin Cooper and Stuart Ripley. August 1985 – Don O'Riordan's performances for Carlisle United earned himself a £55,000 move to Middlesbrough in August 1985. Despite missing only one game the following season, O'Riordan was released amidst Middlesbrough's financial crisis. 30 August 1985 – Newcastle United midfielder Pat Heard moves to Middlesbrough on a month's loan with a view to a permanent deal. October 1985 – In a trial game against Bradford City, Bernie Slaven scored and impressed the Middlesbrough management enough to snap him up. Bradford boss Terry Yorath also wanted him to sign on the dotted line, but the then Albion Rovers owner negotiated a deal with Middlesbrough which satisfied all parties and manager Willie Maddren picked Slaven up for a bargain price of £25,000. 22 October 1985 – Home team Sunderland beat ten man Middlesbrough 1-0 after Archie Stephens was sent off in the 33rd minute. November 1985 - Middlesbrough beat Shrewsbury Town 3-1, in front of a home gate of 4,061, with goals from Gary Rowell, Pat Heard and Tony McAndrew. 2 January 1986 – Second Division strugglers Middlesbrough are reported to be £1 million in debt. 21 May 1986 – Middlesbrough, recently relegated to the Third Division for the second time in their history, are faced with the threat of losing their Football League status and going out of business after going into liquidation. (en)
* The positives this time around - is we have a Head Coach who has integrity, high personal and professional standards, experience as a player at the highest level and with contacts and resources in other clubs and around the world. This time - we are acutely aware of what can happen and Steve Gibson appears to have put in place a back-room staff to support Carrick and his coaches.
Michael Carrick has been given a baptism of fire, but its nowhere near the dark days.
Yet.
Erimus74
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Morning r00fie lad, take away the difference in the crowds & we do resemble the team from the dark daysMorning Erimus.
I couldnt agree more. I mentioned a while back that the current situation reminds me of that same era: we had left the chard remains of a good side, with a few inexperienced youngsters. It was a horrible time to watch Boro - especially when we spent more time counting the missing on the empty terraces and the ever-declining attendances.
I found this piece: clutching at straws couldnt stop the slide>>>>
1985–86 Middlesbrough F.C. season
This period in the history of Middlesbrough is considered its most traumatic. The club was in financial difficulties which eventually led to liquidation in 1986 and the near loss of professional football on Teesside. At the end of 1985–86 season Boro were relegated to the old Third Division. By...dbpedia.org
Middlesbrough 1985-86.
Introduction:
This period in the history of Middlesbrough is considered its most traumatic. The club was in financial difficulties which eventually led to liquidation in 1986 and the near loss of professional football on Teesside. At the end of 1985–86 season Boro were relegated to the old Third Division. By then Willie Maddren was no longer manager. He was sacked with 13 games remaining, replaced by his assistant Bruce Rioch. Maddren is remembered for his astute signings. Bernie Slaven was signed from part-time football in Scotland to become a Middlesbrough legend. Maddren also brought youth team players through the ranks, including Colin Cooper and Stuart Ripley.
Abstract:
This period in the history of Middlesbrough is considered its most traumatic. The club was in financial difficulties which eventually led to liquidation in 1986 and the near loss of professional football on Teesside. At the end of 1985–86 season Boro were relegated to the old Third Division. By then Willie Maddren was no longer manager. He was sacked with 13 games remaining, replaced by his assistant Bruce Rioch. Maddren is remembered for his astute signings. Bernie Slaven was signed from part-time football in Scotland to become a Middlesbrough legend. Maddren also brought youth team players through the ranks, including Colin Cooper and Stuart Ripley. August 1985 – Don O'Riordan's performances for Carlisle United earned himself a £55,000 move to Middlesbrough in August 1985. Despite missing only one game the following season, O'Riordan was released amidst Middlesbrough's financial crisis. 30 August 1985 – Newcastle United midfielder Pat Heard moves to Middlesbrough on a month's loan with a view to a permanent deal. October 1985 – In a trial game against Bradford City, Bernie Slaven scored and impressed the Middlesbrough management enough to snap him up. Bradford boss Terry Yorath also wanted him to sign on the dotted line, but the then Albion Rovers owner negotiated a deal with Middlesbrough which satisfied all parties and manager Willie Maddren picked Slaven up for a bargain price of £25,000. 22 October 1985 – Home team Sunderland beat ten man Middlesbrough 1-0 after Archie Stephens was sent off in the 33rd minute. November 1985 - Middlesbrough beat Shrewsbury Town 3-1, in front of a home gate of 4,061, with goals from Gary Rowell, Pat Heard and Tony McAndrew. 2 January 1986 – Second Division strugglers Middlesbrough are reported to be £1 million in debt. 21 May 1986 – Middlesbrough, recently relegated to the Third Division for the second time in their history, are faced with the threat of losing their Football League status and going out of business after going into liquidation. (en)
* The positives this time around - is we have a Head Coach who has integrity, high personal and professional standards, experience as a player at the highest level and with contacts and resources in other clubs and around the world. This time - we are acutely aware of what can happen and Steve Gibson appears to have put in place a back-room staff to support Carrick and his coaches.
Michael Carrick has been given a baptism of fire, but its nowhere near the dark days.
Yet.
Remember when certain posters were saying it was a good point v West Brom, when we dominated the 1st half then totally fell away in the 2nd half & now West Brom sit bottom of the league
Hull will be the next team to test us, losing at home yesterday, do people confidently predict us to get anything from that game
GazBoro
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I agree, the club as a whole is no where near in the dire state it was in 83-85, but this team is the worst I've seen since those days. In fact the team we had back then that struggled in division 2 may have lacked quality, but they didn't lack effort and fight. This current team has no redeeming factors, none. Its shyte, gutless, and leaderless on the pitch.