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Sword my family has isolated for a week now to see my wifes dad and our odlest daughter. Went as far as all getting tested yesterday as well.

My 9 year old daughter was in tears tonight as was my wife and her dad.

We just have to make the best of a bad situation now.

Have as good a Christmas as you can manage.
Same here. Fkn ***ed off and angry. When I see the Cummings, Jenryks etc get away with what they did when we obey the rules makes me puke. And even if some people do break the rules, although it is wrong, I really cannot blame them.
If the government want people to obey the law then they should be setting the example and punishing those that don't do so.
 
New mutation report

Seems like it`s come from NE Spain if I`m reading the above report correctly

China got criticised for not being quick enough to stop the global spread yet here we are with a new strain that transmits faster and we do nothing. Close the borders now or are they waiting for the lorries to do that on Jan 1st
Some people cant see the wood for the trees. Border closures must be a valid consideration now surely

What options are left to stop the spread, especially now there's a new variant for which previous measures are not working. As I said earlier though, its too late now. You cant be reactive here, prevention only works proactively
 
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Sword my family has isolated for a week now to see my wifes dad and our odlest daughter. Went as far as all getting tested yesterday as well.

My 9 year old daughter was in tears tonight as was my wife and her dad.

We just have to make the best of a bad situation now.

Have as good a Christmas as you can manage.
And you mate - a bummer but there it is.
 
There are going to be a lot of lonely people this Christmas. I live alone, I finish work on Wednesday and do not return until Monday 4th January. I’m already struggling to adapt to working at home with a lack of social contact at work. Rather than looking forward to the break I’m dreading it. I cannot do anything, go see people without knowing I am breaking the rules. It gets dark early, during the spring lockdown I went walking for hours in the evening just to get out out the house.

I won’t go into detail but even my plans for Xmas day itself mean my family are slightly bending the rules. Am I expected to spend the day on my own?? And before anyone mentions bubbles you could count on one hand the number of people who’ve been in my house / back yard socially since March (although I have employed an electrician and painter 😂)

Ive suffere with anxiety for decades and was diagnosed clinically depressed in December last year. I was off work for best part of six weeks in summer with depression as I couldn’t adapt to working from home.

Those on this thread showing little and no compassion towards those who will break the rules need to keep their nasty little self
righteous comments to themselves.

to anyone reading this who is upset or struggling tonight, peace and love. Take care and UTB
 
Those on this thread showing little and no compassion towards those who will break the rules need to keep their nasty little self
righteous comments to themselves.

to anyone reading this who is upset or struggling tonight, peace and love. Take care and UTB

You take care mate - in the end we will all do what we have to do.
To quote a man who suffered badly with depression, Spike Milligan "Love. light & peace."
 
When this is what we elect to run the country, regardless of the challenges we may face and unbeknownst to anyone at the time, is there any wonder it's turned out to be an utter joke

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There are going to be a lot of lonely people this Christmas. I live alone, I finish work on Wednesday and do not return until Monday 4th January. I’m already struggling to adapt to working at home with a lack of social contact at work. Rather than looking forward to the break I’m dreading it. I cannot do anything, go see people without knowing I am breaking the rules. It gets dark early, during the spring lockdown I went walking for hours in the evening just to get out out the house.

I won’t go into detail but even my plans for Xmas day itself mean my family are slightly bending the rules. Am I expected to spend the day on my own?? And before anyone mentions bubbles you could count on one hand the number of people who’ve been in my house / back yard socially since March (although I have employed an electrician and painter 😂)

Ive suffere with anxiety for decades and was diagnosed clinically depressed in December last year. I was off work for best part of six weeks in summer with depression as I couldn’t adapt to working from home.

Those on this thread showing little and no compassion towards those who will break the rules need to keep their nasty little self
righteous comments to themselves.

to anyone reading this who is upset or struggling tonight, peace and love. Take care and UTB
Well said and I do know exactly what you are going through, I have been the same. I actually think about you sometimes and pray that things get better for you. I fell lucky. I met a marvellous woman and married her. She helps me a lot when I am low in mood. I hope you find the same. Take care mate, keep safe and try to have a good Christmas.
 
There are going to be a lot of lonely people this Christmas. I live alone, I finish work on Wednesday and do not return until Monday 4th January. I’m already struggling to adapt to working at home with a lack of social contact at work. Rather than looking forward to the break I’m dreading it. I cannot do anything, go see people without knowing I am breaking the rules. It gets dark early, during the spring lockdown I went walking for hours in the evening just to get out out the house.

I won’t go into detail but even my plans for Xmas day itself mean my family are slightly bending the rules. Am I expected to spend the day on my own?? And before anyone mentions bubbles you could count on one hand the number of people who’ve been in my house / back yard socially since March (although I have employed an electrician and painter 😂)

Ive suffere with anxiety for decades and was diagnosed clinically depressed in December last year. I was off work for best part of six weeks in summer with depression as I couldn’t adapt to working from home.

Those on this thread showing little and no compassion towards those who will break the rules need to keep their nasty little self
righteous comments to themselves.

to anyone reading this who is upset or struggling tonight, peace and love. Take care and UTB
Good luck to you mate.

Unfortunately some posters...especially one don’t take into account others situations.

Be interesting if that persons addresses your post.
 
There are going to be a lot of lonely people this Christmas. I live alone, I finish work on Wednesday and do not return until Monday 4th January. I’m already struggling to adapt to working at home with a lack of social contact at work. Rather than looking forward to the break I’m dreading it. I cannot do anything, go see people without knowing I am breaking the rules. It gets dark early, during the spring lockdown I went walking for hours in the evening just to get out out the house.

I won’t go into detail but even my plans for Xmas day itself mean my family are slightly bending the rules. Am I expected to spend the day on my own?? And before anyone mentions bubbles you could count on one hand the number of people who’ve been in my house / back yard socially since March (although I have employed an electrician and painter 😂)

Ive suffere with anxiety for decades and was diagnosed clinically depressed in December last year. I was off work for best part of six weeks in summer with depression as I couldn’t adapt to working from home.

Those on this thread showing little and no compassion towards those who will break the rules need to keep their nasty little self
righteous comments to themselves.

to anyone reading this who is upset or struggling tonight, peace and love. Take care and UTB
I understand, I really do. Calling me names won’t help things though. Here’s the thing though, the thing I’ve been saying for a while now: meeting up at Christmas, with cases being so high and the virus still clearly circulating massively, is going to EXTEND the measure we have to put in place next year. You can be careful, you can think everything you do so fine. The thing is not everyone will be and, even if you are, it’s still remarkably easy to spread viruses. You just need to see that if you’re fed up of being isolated, if you’re struggling with loneliness the VERY WORST thing you can do is plan to meet up with people next Friday. It’s going to make the 2021 suffering and isolation longer and much much worse. Why can’t we just hold our nerve, survive this winter. What for vaccines to ramp up and then let restrictions reduce. It’s a terrible thing for those struggling mentally to give false hope next week and a longer lockdown next year
 
Good luck to you mate.

Unfortunately some posters...especially one don’t take into account others situations.

Be interesting if that persons addresses your post.
Bang on the money

at the end of the day if you are sensible and limit the number of people you see then I see no problem.

hate to bang on about it but it’s a mental health disaster. 60k people have died from this virus (although I honestly think it’s just finished off a lot of people poorly with something else) but In the long term a darn sight more people will die from the effects suffered by these inhumane lockdowns.
 
Bang on the money

at the end of the day if you are sensible and limit the number of people you see then I see no problem.

hate to bang on about it but it’s a mental health disaster. 60k people have died from this virus (although I honestly think it’s just finished off a lot of people poorly with something else) but In the long term a darn sight more people will die from the effects suffered by these inhumane lockdowns.

People can be as sensible as possible, but it’s a highly contagious virus and having 6/8 people sat around a table in a typical home means they won’t be able to stay a safe distance apart, if one person attends who has the virus, then everyone will get it. Thinking of millions of homes doing this next week has the potential to cause a disaster.

Completely agree with you on the mental health side of this, but surely the spike in cases this will inevitably cause will just result in many months of further restrictions. And that’s just going to cause even further damage.
 
People can be as sensible as possible, but it’s a highly contagious virus and having 6/8 people sat around a table in a typical home means they won’t be able to stay a safe distance apart, if one person attends who has the virus, then everyone will get it. Thinking of millions of homes doing this next week has the potential to cause a disaster.

Completely agree with you on the mental health side of this, but surely the spike in cases this will inevitably cause will just result in many months of further restrictions. And that’s just going to cause even further damage.
I will be with 3 others. My brother (who has actually had covid) mother and sister in law. It’s three households. We’re going to a pub. I’ve been out to a pub a handful of times since March. I know it’s contagious but I don’t care. Really don’t F***ing care. Sorry. I’ve had a F***ing miserable unhappy year and spent most of it on my own. So forgive me for wanting a few hours of happiness and company.
 
Thing is, for anyone with mental health issues it's very difficult to live beyond the moment. When you're struggling at just getting through the day, it's almost impossible to imagine what it may be like 'months down the line'. I know because I suffered hugely some years back.

I know we have to be sensible and beat this hideous virus but sometimes it's just not as easy as telling someone it'll get better.

So anyone on their own and anyone suffering you really have my sincerest, most genuine sympathy.
 
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