This says everything about this government

Norman_Conquest

Norman_Conquest

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The Guardian - Ministers have rebuffed an offer by nursing unions to suspend planned strikes in return for negotiations on pay, arguing that it was not possible for the government to amend awards decided by the independent pay body for NHS staff.

It seems to me they are happy with conflict to deflect from the continuous mistakes they make week in and week out. I wonder if the PMs took up Mick Lynch's offer?

www.theguardian.com

Ministers refuse to negotiate with nurses on pay to prevent NHS strikes

Government rebuffs union offer to suspend action in return for talks, saying it can’t depart from review body’s recommendation
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Divide and rule...that's their mantra....
Turn ordinary folk against one another, it's worked before...
There isn't enough people , unfortunately,who can see through this scumbag government......
The BBC local news interview a woman on the street last week about the postal strikes....her reply was " I think it's wrong , people NEED to receive their Xmas cards, it's terrible"
What chance do you have?
 
Norman_Conquest said:
The Guardian - Ministers have rebuffed an offer by nursing unions to suspend planned strikes in return for negotiations on pay, arguing that it was not possible for the government to amend awards decided by the independent pay body for NHS staff.

It seems to me they are happy with conflict to deflect from the continuous mistakes they make week in and week out. I wonder if the PMs took up Mick Lynch's offer?

www.theguardian.com

Ministers refuse to negotiate with nurses on pay to prevent NHS strikes

Government rebuffs union offer to suspend action in return for talks, saying it can’t depart from review body’s recommendation
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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This government are scum. No other word for it*

*Ok I can actually think of a few others if I put my mind to it.
 
As Wes Streeting said in the Commons, "they know that patients are going to suffer this winter, they don’t have a plan to fix it, so instead of acting to improve care for patients and accept responsibility, they want to use nurses as a scapegoat in the hope that they avoid the blame."
And the RW media will just love attacking the 'greedy' unions.
 
Cant give thestrikers my support, not when troops are having their christmas cancelled to do the job of someone who is on far more money them. Im sure if the troops were called to go to a conflict they wouldnt mind because thats what the are trained for but to do someoneelses job is bang out of order. The average squaddie dose his 4 to 8 yrs then leaves because the money is cxxp. I doubt they will get a pay rise after al this. Other countries look after their troops where here they are treated like sh1t.
 
BOROVALE said:
Cant give thestrikers my support, not when troops are having their christmas cancelled to do the job of someone who is on far more money them. Im sure if the troops were called to go to a conflict they wouldnt mind because thats what the are trained for but to do someoneelses job is bang out of order. The average squaddie dose his 4 to 8 yrs then leaves because the money is cxxp. I doubt they will get a pay rise after al this. Other countries look after their troops where here they are treated like sh1t.
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So you are happy for nurses to use food banks to supplement their wages?

Edit: I think I mentioned on another post that Squaddies are gutted at being asked to support other services but as Festa said, divide and conquer.
 
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BOROVALE said:
Cant give thestrikers my support, not when troops are having their christmas cancelled to do the job of someone who is on far more money them. Im sure if the troops were called to go to a conflict they wouldnt mind because thats what the are trained for but to do someoneelses job is bang out of order. The average squaddie dose his 4 to 8 yrs then leaves because the money is cxxp. I doubt they will get a pay rise after al this. Other countries look after their troops where here they are treated like sh1t.
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What on earth does that have to do with the strikers? Blame the Government for threatening to use them as strike-busters.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
So you are happy for nurses to use food banks to supplement their wages?

Edit: I think I mentioned on another post that Squaddies are gutted at being asked to support other services but as Festa said, divide and conquer.
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No, i just thomk that Squaddies get the rough end of the stick. . I work in nhs alongside nurses, my daughters a nurse. None of them have mentioned having to use foodbanks however maybe they would feel embarrassed to do so. By the way im on the bottom of the nhs payscale.
 
BOROVALE said:
Cant give thestrikers my support, not when troops are having their christmas cancelled to do the job of someone who is on far more money them. Im sure if the troops were called to go to a conflict they wouldnt mind because thats what the are trained for but to do someoneelses job is bang out of order. The average squaddie dose his 4 to 8 yrs then leaves because the money is cxxp. I doubt they will get a pay rise after al this. Other countries look after their troops where here they are treated like sh1t.
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New member comes in and supports the governments stance. or at the least not supporting the strikers.
 
BOROVALE said:
No, i just thomk that Squaddies get the rough end of the stick. . I work in nhs alongside nurses, my daughters a nurse. None of them have mentioned having to use foodbanks however maybe they would feel embarrassed to do so. By the way im on the bottom of the nhs payscale.
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As said by NYboro above, it's not the strikers fault the government are choosing to use forces as strike busters. Direct your ire where it belongs, rather than being so gullible to do exactly what the government want you to do and attack the strikers.
 
BOROVALE said:
No, i just thomk that Squaddies get the rough end of the stick. . I work in nhs alongside nurses, my daughters a nurse. None of them have mentioned having to use foodbanks however maybe they would feel embarrassed to do so. By the way im on the bottom of the nhs payscale.
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The evidence that nurses use foodbanks is not anecdotal. It's a proven fact.

"The average squaddie dose his 4 to 8 yrs then leaves because the money is cxxp. I doubt they will get a pay rise after al this. Other countries look after their troops where here they are treated like sh1t."

And the irony of your comments about army pay is clearly lost on you.
 
Sexpom said:
I don’t think I can give my full support, not when I know it’s spoiling @FatCat Christmas shenanigans.
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I know it's a joke post, and hopefully FC sees it that way too, but let's try and refrain from having a pop at posters that haven't been on a thread, even if it is a joke.

No offence intended to your good self @Sexpom 👍
 
BOROVALE said:
Cant give thestrikers my support, not when troops are having their christmas cancelled to do the job of someone who is on far more money them. Im sure if the troops were called to go to a conflict they wouldnt mind because thats what the are trained for but to do someoneelses job is bang out of order. The average squaddie dose his 4 to 8 yrs then leaves because the money is cxxp. I doubt they will get a pay rise after al this. Other countries look after their troops where here they are treated like sh1t.
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This is the kind of thinking we're up against in this country I'm afraid. Beggars belief really
 
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