* The Unofficial "Official" Boro v Spurs. FA Cup. 5th Round. Match-day Thread *

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1981 Boro v Wolves. FA Cup 6th Round,


- marked the beginning of the end of John Neale`s talented side and began Boro`s painful slide - towards 1986 and all that.

Teesside was buzzing: it was hard not to find a corner in the local pub - where fans and the public werent talking about the upcoming tie against Wolves. It was so close to that shock defeat to Orient in 77 - we had hope that it wouldnt happen again. I was flogging Match Programmes at the corner of Victoria Rd and Linthorpe Road. Trade was usually brisk - but on that day - I sold out by about 1.15 pm and headed down the Empire - where the queue was out the door. I dont think there was a glass left behind the bar. It was the day when the pub had two big rooms - no telly and it was always rammed on matchdays.
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I downed a couple then got to Ayresome Park to hand over the takings - then tried to push through the Holgate crowd to get to the "usual" crash-barrier - the second left up from behind Jim Platt`s goal. 36,000+ witnessed Andy Gray score early, but Terry Cochrane - characteristic socks-down-his ankles, weaved through Wolves defence to fire the equaliser home! YES!!!! We were far better than them, but didnt make it count.

Unfortunately we were stuffed 3-1 in the replay, in front of 40,000+ at their place.
Gutted!
Absolutely Gutted!





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This is what Anthony Vickers wrote about the tie and about the inevitable fall - out for the club and us fans:

[Originally published 14th May 2009]

Wolves FA Cup defeat still hurts

A MASSIVE travelling Teesside Army returned from Molineux heart-broken and with a deep sense of foreboding after the crushing 3-1 defeat.

Fans had invested all their hopes in the FA Cup run and there was a widespread belief among the dreaming diehards that this year John Neal’s side had their name on the cup.

But, against a background of mounting financial troubles, they knew too that failure may lead to a summer sale at Ayresome Park with the best of the bright, young team auctioned off to pay the bills.

Rumours were rife across Teesside that key players already had new clubs lined up, of dressing room discontent and of moves afoot in the boardroom to cash in assets to fund developments off the pitch, not least the Ayresome Park sports hall.

So the stakes were high for the 10,000-plus supporters who joined the swarm who made their way to the Midlands on a Tuesday night by train, coach, car and works van. You couldn’t get a mini-bus on Teesside for love nor money.

Bubbling Boro had the best of the first match at Ayresome and really should have sealed it with a flurry of chances after Terry Cochrane’s equaliser.

And that lack of the killer touch cost them in the replay too as they bounced back from a lack-lustre first half to equalise and take command only to let Wolves off the hook and crumble in extra-time.

Bosco Jankovic had the ball in the net and celebrated with gusto after five minutes but the popular Yugoslav was left crest-fallen as the linesman stuck a late flag up and the ‘goal’ was ruled offside.

After that early escape Wolves were stung into action and they tore Boro apart in a torrid opening half-hour.

Boro went behind on 11 minutes as Ian Bailey conceded a needless free-kick on the edge of the box and although Jim Platt superbly went full length to push Kenny Hibbert’s effort onto the post Mel Eves was on hand to stoop and head in the rebound.

Then Boro were left reeling as Wayne Clarke first fired against the bar and then the post in a blistering spell.

Boro rallied before the break and came out fighting in the second half and suddenly the game swung the other way.

David Hodgson brought a good save from keeper Bradshaw and Bosco just failed to connect with a David Armstrong free-kick.

Then Boro’s fiery flanker Terry Cochrane and Wolves man Derek Parkin were booked for a bout of fisticuffs as the temperature rose.

Boro levelled on 71 minutes as Hodgson put a looping header into the box then raced forward and when Jankovic controlled neatly then swivelled and chipped back across the face of goal Hodgson had arrived unmarked in the perfect place to nod it home.

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Cochrane almost got a winner at the death but couldn’t quite turn David Armstrong’s corner home and Boro looked confident going into extra time.


But they were stunned as Wolves scored out of the blue on 97 minutes. Willie Carr seized onto a poor throw in by Irving Nattrass and pushed it down the line to Andy Gray and, when he crossed, the unmarked John Richards drilled home from inside the box.

Boro piled forward and almost levelled again soon after but Billy Ashcroft’s low shot was cleared off the line.

Wolves wrapped it up two minutes from time as a long ball forward bounced outside the box and substitute striker Norman Bell streaked through onto it and rifled home a low shot past Platt.

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The Boro fans were left dejected. The defeat broke their hearts and it broke the club.


The next day assistant boss Harold Shepherdson drove Aussie schemer Craig Johnston to Anfield to discuss a £750,000 move and the gradual slide from asset stripping to liquidation had begun.

TEAM: Jim Platt, Irving Nattrass; Ian Bailey; Craig Johnston; Billy Ashcroft; Tony McAndrew; Terry Cochrane (David Shearer); Mark Proctor; David Hodgson; Bosco Jankovic; David Armstrong.

ATTENDANCE: 40,524.


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The Fallout from Defeat:


CRAIG Johnson was gone within the week of Boro’s Cup KO as the Ayresome Fire Sales started.
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Three more of John Neal’s exciting young side had gone before the following season kicked off - along with the frustrated boss himself.


And two more influential players had been cashed in before the start of the next campaign - one that kicked off in Division Two as the nightmare slide to oblivion gathered pace.

Johnson never played for Boro again, although by the time of the Wolves game he had already become a semi- detached and isolated figure in the dressing room and a boo-boy target on the pitch after news leaked that he wanted out.

The jungle telegraph hinted at fisticuffs in the Molineux dressing room after he said he wasn’t too bothered by defeat as he was off to Liverpool.

His departure brought in £750,000 to help fund a grand redevelopment of Ayresome Park that included a revamp of the hospitality areas and the building of sports hall.

But gates and income were already starting to slide while building costs spiralled and the sales accelerated.
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In the summer mercurial midfielder Mark Proctor joined Nottingham Forest for £400,000 and stalwart David Armstrong went to Southampton for
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£600,000 while Bosco Jankovic retired to practice law before briefly reappearing at French club Metz.

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But with the stars moved on and replaced by cheaper and less creative players like Billy Woof, Heine Otto and Billy Askew and local lads like Garry MacDonald promoted Boro struggled from the off and spent the entire next campaign in the drop spots.


After relegation fans’ favourite David Hodgson was sold to Liverpool for £450,000 and Tony McAndrew left soon after to Chelsea for £92,000.
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There were few saleable assets left and, although the sports hall was completed, the club was in financial chaos.


After two years bumping along the bottom of Division Two they were relegated to the third tier at the end of the 1984-85 season and the liquidators were closing in fast.

As well as a turnover in players the dug-out was in flux too. In the five years after Neal, Boro got through ill-fated bosses Bobby Murdoch, Malcolm Allison and Willie Maddren before Bruce Rioch arrived just as the club hit rock bottom.

The player sales signalled an end of ambition at Ayresome and the optimism that Neal had created in building on Jack Charlton’s legacy evaporated quickly. As the team broke up, crowds and interest plummeted.

In the year before the Wolves exit the average crowd at Ayresome had been over 18,000 and the highest over 30,000. The year after the average had slumped to 13,400 and the top gate was only 21,000.

As the club were dumped through the second division relegation trapdoor in 1984-85 the average was 5,135 and the highest crowd a paltry 8,817 for a derby with Leeds.
 
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From Down The Lane:


Antonio Conte
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Antonio Conte doesn’t have to turn the clock back too far when he talks about Middlesbrough’s potential threat ahead of our FA Cup fifth round tie at the Riverside on Tuesday night (7.55pm).

Chris Wilder’s team have already produced one of the best performances of this season’s competition by beating Manchester United at Old Trafford in round four, where they came from a goal behind to dominate the second half, equalise and then win on penalties.

We have recent FA Cup history with the Teesiders as well - we drew at the Riverside in the third round as recently as January, 2020, before winning the replay at home.

Currently just outside the play-off places in eighth in the Championship, Middlesbrough have lost just four of his 18 matches in all competitions since Wilder took over from Neil Warnock in November, two of which have come in the last three matches. That includes a spell of seven wins in eight from November-January and FA Cup wins against Mansfield and United away to reach the fifth round.

“You know very well that in England, every game is difficult, especially in this competition when you play away against Middlesbrough, who are having a good season in the Championship,” said Antonio on Monday.

“Middlesbrough are a good team. When you are able to win against Manchester United - not to forget, Middlesbrough eliminated United from this competition, and they are one of the best teams in this league - it means they have important value. For this reason, it will be very important not to underestimate our opponent and the difficulty of this game.”


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We travel to Teeside on the back of a fine 4-0 win at Leeds on Saturday, the third match of a rollercoaster week on the road in the Premier League that saw us win at Manchester City but then lose at Burnley before getting back on track at Elland Road.

Asked if the display at Leeds had reinstalled confidence, Antonio told us: “Our performance (at Leeds) was good, but don’t forget against City it was the same, and before the game against Burnley, we arrived with great confidence and you know very well what happened.

“We have to learn about this type of situation. Yes, we have to be confident because we’re in a good moment of form, but at the same time we have to fight to go through to the next round.

“We have to prepare seriously for this game, because we want to go through. The mentality has to be the same every time. The players have to know that every game has to be a fight, and we have to pay great attention, focus, and not under evaluate the opponent.

“We have to fight a lot in every game to win. For sure, we have to show great desire, great will to win our duels, win second balls and play attractive football but, at the same time, play with great character, great personality, great passion.”
 
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Championship Fixture: Tuesday 1st March
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Cardiff v Derby 19:45 hrs

After West Brom`s 2-0 defeat tonight [Monday 28th February 2022] - which pushes them down to 13th in the table - Cardiff [20th] play Derby [23rd]. Derby are 8 points off the drop. Cardiff have had a mini-run which puts them 13 points above a relegation place and15 points above Derby. Its a crucial match for both clubs. Derby are in a poor run of form - 6 points out of the last 18.

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https://www.playingpasts.co.uk/arti...tenham-hotspur-the-first-fa-cup-meeting-1905/

Middlesbrough v Tottenham Hotspur: The First FA Cup Meeting (1905)

Posted by Tosh Warwick | Mar 30, 2020 | Football, Team Sports |

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*[This article was published the day of our previous encounter with Tottenham back in 2020 - but is just as relevant tonight]

Middlesbrough’s Riverside Stadium FA Cup clash with last season’s Champions League Finalists Tottenham Hotspur is one of the standout ties of this year’s Third Round draw. The Teessiders look to reverse a trend of having never beaten Spurs in the FA Cup dating back to the early twentieth century. As part of a project exploring the history of Middlesbrough’s former Ayresome Park home, Manchester Metropolitan Historian Dr Tosh Warwick looks back to 1905 and the first FA Cup clash between the two clubs…
Pitching up at Ayresome Park on Saturday 4th February 1905, Tottenham Hotspur arrived for the First Round tie having enjoyed recent trophy successes, most notably lifting the 1900/1901 FA Cup as a non-league side. The Teessiders had moved to their new Ayresome Park home two years earlier with ambitions to join the game’s elite but met non-league Spurs as they struggled to make an impact in the First Division.

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Middlesbrough’s new Ayresome Park home
(Middlesbrough Football Club)

In line with trends across the country, FA Cup football at Ayresome Park proved a huge draw for the Teesside football faithful as the prospect of cup glory increased attendances and gate receipts. The previous tie held at Ayresome Park, a 3-1 defeat to Manchester City, attracted a ground record attendance of 33,000 supporters. The Tottenham tie once again captured the imagination of sports fans in the Ironopolis as a season-high 20,340 attendance brought gate receipts of £797.

The large crowd witnessed a hard fought 1-1 draw with the spectators getting ‘full value for their money’ according to Middlesbrough’s North Eastern Daily Gazette. After falling behind to a seventh minute Alexander Glen goal for Spurs, Middlesbrough replied through Henry Astley’s equaliser. Boro might have qualified ‘had the home team availed themselves of the chances presented to them’ with Atherton and Thackeray guilty of missing open goals in the first half. Boro were also denied an almost certain goal as Thackeray was tripped by Tait in the area, with Boro’s Agnew failing to convert the subsequent penalty. Had VAR been in play back in the 1900s Boro might have had another penalty when Tottenham’s Tait was again the culprit as he handled in the penalty area. However, the referee failed to award a spot kick and Spurs held on for a replay at White Hart Lane.

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Spurs FA Cup heroes of 1901
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Middlesbrough Football Team 1904-05
(Harry Glasper)

Press reports of the Ayresome Park encounter praised the visitors’ resilience and rued Boro’s poor finishing. The Daily News (London) led with the headline ‘HOTSPUR DO WELL UP NORTH’, praised Tottenham’s efforts and described the home crowd’s appreciation of the ‘speedy, tricky and effective’ performance of Spurs’ Joe Walton ‘for the hardy Northerner loves to see such play, even if it does come from one of the visiting side’. The North Eastern Daily Gazette reported that ‘Middlesbrough should have won by at least 3 goals to 1 had the grand chances that came their way been accepted’ and considered Tottenham ‘very fortunate’ to escape with a draw.

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A match report from the North Eastern Daily Gazette on the 4th Feb 1905 tie

(Middlesbrough Libraries & The Gazette)

Boro travelled to London for a 9th February replay having not won away from home since a 3-0 success against Preston North End in the FA Cup on 20th February 1904. Yet, hopes were high that with improved finishing John Robson’s men might progress to the next round. Once again the men from Teesside were found wanting in front of goal and despite an excellent display by Boro goalkeeper Tim Williamson at White Hart Lane, an O’Hagan goal with three minutes remaining put Boro out of the FA Cup and secured Spurs a tie with Newcastle United. Williamson’s performance drew plaudits in the national press and his fine form would see him gain his first England cap weeks later in a 1-1 draw with Ireland at Ayresome Park. In late February, Tottenham were knocked out of the FA Cup in the following round by Middlesbrough’s Tyneside rivals Newcastle United, whilst Boro’s woeful away form was ended courtesy of a debut goal by controversial new £1,000 world record signing Alf Common in a 1-0 win over Sheffield United at Bramall Lane.

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Tim Williamson
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Tottenham’s next taste of FA Cup glory would come in the 1920/21 season and the club would go on to enjoy further success in the 1960s, 1980s and 1990s, winning the tournament a total of eight times. Middlesbrough have reached the FA Cup Final once, losing 2-0 to Chelsea at Wembley Stadium in 1997, and are yet to win the trophy.

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Action from the Spurs v Middlesbrough replay at White Hart Lane in February 1905
(Harry Glasper)

Article © Tosh Warwick
 
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A "Left-Foot Shot" of today`s two other F.A Cup Matches:

1. Peterborough v Manchester City


"All Peterborough United need to beat Manchester City is luck, a dodgy referee, more bad weather and a miracle!

Peterborough United have no chance of beating Manchester City in their fifth round FA Cup tie at London Road on Tuesday (March 1, 7.15pm)."

[https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk...eferee-more-bad-weather-and-a-miracle-3588971

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But,way-back-when, Posh beat high-flying Liverpool in 1991!(y)

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But then Posh had no chance of beating Liverpool in their fouth round Rumbelows League Cup tie at London Road in December, 1991.

The Reds were in transition in their first season under the management of Graeme Souness, but they had finished second in the First Division the season before and they had won the title in the 1989-90 season for the 18th time in the club’s history.

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Souness had splashed out a national record £2.9 million on Welsh forward Dean Saunders in the summer. England centre-back Mark Wright moved to Anfield from Derby County with him.

They both played against Posh at London Road. Both doubtless watched aghast as eccentric goalkeeper Bruce Grobbelaar dropped a routine cross enabling winger Garry Kimble to score the only goal of the game in the 18th minute.

Souness was hurt, and presumably angered, as Posh centre-back (and big Celtic fan) Steve Welsh chased the former Rangers manager down the tunnel at the end of the game hurling unkind comments!

But how did Posh pull off one of the greatest shock in the club’s history?
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“Belief,” legendary Posh skipper Mick Halsall, and committed Scouser, replied. “We had so much self-belief at that time we were happy to take anyone on. That was down to the manager (Chris Turner) who played down our chances in public (he talked about boarding the goal up as the only way to keep a clean sheet at one point), but privately he made us believe we could win .

“We were in the Third Division at the time, but we were in great form. I know the current team don’t have that confidence at the moment, but if they can compete, and even if they suffer an honourable defeat, it will only help them in the league matches.

“Belief,” legendary Posh skipper Mick Halsall, and committed Scouser, replied. “We had so much self-belief at that time we were happy to take anyone on. That was down to the manager (Chris Turner) who played down our chances in public (he talked about boarding the goal up as the only way to keep a clean sheet at one point), but privately he made us believe we could win .

“We were in the Third Division at the time, but we were in great form. I know the current team don’t have that confidence at the moment, but if they can compete, and even if they suffer an honourable defeat, it will only help them in the league matches.

“Of course everyone knows how difficult it will be against City. It wasn’t the greatest Liverpool side we beat, but they still had plenty of stars playing like Jan Molby, Ray Houghton and Steve McManaman and we deservedly won so you never know.

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“It’s all about staying in the game. Posh will need plenty of luck, maybe a big refereeing call to go their way. It would probably help them if the next storm arrived on that night! They are all wishful thoughts, but you just never know in football. A massive shock does happen now and again. In the Liverpool match I was very lucky not to concede a penalty when it was 0-0 after I tripped Steve Nichol. That’s the sort of fortune you need in a big game.

“People will talk about the cramped away dressing room which hasn’t changed much since my day and a bad playing surface. It all helps, but one problem with playing City, never mind all their star players, is the manager. Pep Guardiola is so driven and so intense there is not a chance his side will be either complacent or the least bit underprepared.

“But it’s a free hit for Posh. No-one will want a drubbing, but if they can make a game of it their season could turn around quickly.

“We took so much confidence from playing well and beating Liverpool it definitely gave us the momentum to go and win a second promotion in a row.

“You have to forget who you are playing and just make it as difficult as you can. You can enjoy the memories for years afterwards. I still look back at the Liverpool match which was over 30 years ago.”

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Posh went on to get knocked out in a quarter-final replay at Middlesbrough when a two-legged semi-final against Manchester United was the prize.
Halsall is now West Bromwich Albion’s Head of Academy.

Posh: Barber, Luke, Johnson, Robinson, Welsh, Halsall, Sterling, Cooper, Kimble, Charlery, Riley.

Liverpool: Grobbelaar, Ablett, Burrows, Nichol, Wright, Tanner, Houghton, Molby, Saunders, Marsh, McManaman. Sub used: Harkness.

Attendance: 14,114.
 
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"Left-Foot Shot"

2.Crystal Palace v Stoke City

Premier League Palace are favourites to beat mid-table Championship Stoke. The Potters have been all the way to Wembley - playing the FA Cup final in 2011, when 88,000+ fans saw them narrowly lose 1-0 to Manchester City:
[This article published May 2021 - by Peter Smith]

'Imagine the scenes if Kenywne had scored' - 10 years since Stoke City's FA Cup final

Stoke City were in form but hit by injuries when they took on Manchester City at Wembley in 2011 FA Cup final
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It was a golden, swashbuckling spring of 2011 for Stoke City.


The Tony Pulis era peaked with a brilliantly-balanced team; hard and athletic with no little skill.

There were partnerships flourishing all over the pitch. Wingers Matty Etherington and Jermaine Pennant were in exceptional form on either side, up front Jon Walters and Kenwyne Jones gave defenders nightmares, Ryan Shawcross and Robert Huth were mountains at the back.

Bolton Wanderers were steamrollered 5-0 in the semi-final at Wembley, Newcastle were smashed 4-0 in the Premier League, Wolves were whitewashed 3-0 and title-chasing Arsenal were stuffed 3-1 in a match where the scoreline does not reflect the dominance.

From March 13, 2011 to May 13, Stoke had played nine matches, won five, drew three, scored 21, let in just seven and were ready to take on Manchester City for the FA Cup.

But it couldn’t stay so smooth forever.

Robert Huth suffered a knee injury when Alex Song accidentally fell across his legs in that Arsenal game. Matty Etherington tore a hamstring by Wolves, Danny Higginbotham damaged knee ligaments against Chelsea and Ricardo Fuller ruptured his Achilles tendon in a draw at Aston Villa.

Pulis was determined to give his key men as much chance as possible of making the big day – and in the end Huth and Etherington were passed fit enough to start… but Stoke struggled to find their verve.
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We know the rest: Kenwyne Jones couldn’t quite poke an Etherington chip past Joe Hart after getting behind Joleon Lescott, Thomas Sorensen pulled off a full-stretch dive to push away a curler from Mario Balotelli and Yaya Toure shunted in the only goal in the 74th minute.
Pulis admitted his players had under-performed, but insisted no such accusation could be levelled at the 27,000-plus Stoke fans.


He said: “For our supporters to stay behind and clap Manchester City was a great gesture, and they should take credit for that. To watch the other club pick up the trophy is pretty unique.

“The Premier League has brought the crowd close to the football club. It’s the closest I’ve ever known a group of supporters to get to a football club. It’s been pretty phenomenal.

“It shows what you can achieve if you work hard enough to look after the community. We’ve spent a lot of time doing it and brought supporters on board.”

Chairman Peter Coates wondered if a fit Fuller might have made a difference in the closing stages but added: “I’m disappointed like everyone else that we lost, but I still enjoyed the experience.

“It has been a tremendous performance by the club. We are 148 years old and we had never been to an FA Cup final before.”

So even if Man City got their trophy – and have picked up another sack full as they have gone on to live on another planet – Stoke can look back with pride.
 
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Beyond Our Wilderest Dreams - 2

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"We are going to have to play for our lives"!


Report on part two of Chris Wilder`s Media Conference on Monday 28th February 2022:


We know its been an exciting time watching the development of the Wilder "philosophy" - keeping the ball, playing wing-backs and defenders in attacking roles, supporting the strikers and having a positive mentality in the team. But Wilder is the first to admit his concerns over conceding poor goals against the likes of QPR, Bristol city and Barnsley. So what does he see as the problem:

"Is it mentality? We are trying to get to the bottom of it. Its certainly not going forward." He pointed out, there is no point scoring at one end of the pitch then conceding goals "too easily". His teams are built on having a "solid defensive record" with the ability to "minimise mistakes" and stop "conceding poor goals".

Chris is aware of the financial benefits of a good run in cup competitons, but doesnt believe this will affect the club`s prudent approach to recruitment. "We dont play football casino". He will be asking for support from Steve Gibson in transfer dealings and also praised supporters for being "realistic" and understand what Gibson has done for the Boro.


On Spurs: "We are going to have to play for our lives"

Up against world class players, its not going to be an easy task defend against the likes of Son and Kane. Reportedly they have the Premiership record "duo" of goals scored between them. Wilder stated "we will have to play for our lives".

But our defence has been leaky and certainly not performing consistently in the way he expects. There has been much speculation about some of our players mnoving on to play in the Premier League; Dael Fry for instance. Wilder was asked if he thought he could cope against Harry Kane like he did against Ronaldo at Manchester United?

"He will have to do better than he did against Carlton Morris on Saturday" [at Barnsley].

"Dael will have to produce a top performance".

"There`s no reason why some of these [Boro] players cant play into the Premier League".

Chris took some of his players at Sheffield United from League One in the Premier League. So how does he see the future with Boro? "If the [Premier League] door opens, we step through it".

Can our players cope with a Full House
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We`ve already played in front of packed houses against the likes of Forest and Derby. Chris mentioned the massive crowd at Manchester United. "It inspires me" he said. He believes Boro fans are up for the big occasions and says supporters will "inspire the players".

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Spurs are up and ready.
Their fans will be on their way pretty soon if not already.
We welcome them to our home
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The Gazettes "predicted" starting 11.
Gotta be on our game tonight
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More so than ever we need to attack down both wings. There is definitely a chance of being productive - especially if Davies and Doherty play. Doherty not really displayed the form he had when at Wolves. And we will need at least 2 goals tonight- possibly 3! Come on Boro UTB
 
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