The short corners.

I don’t mind us “mixing it up” but it was quite clear after several of them we were terrible at short corners and just needed to whip it in
 
A lot of people around me moaning about the short corners, I don't get what everyone is moaning about tbh, we have never been prolific from corners. I like the inventiveness, this is how we play now so people need to get use to it cos it's not going to change.

It was because none of our short corner routines were any good.
 
Boils down to statistics.
Only 3.4% of direct corners result in a goal and just 7.5% result in an effort on goal. While statistically, a short corner results in a goal in 3.9% of the occasions they are taken, with over 9% resulting in a shot on goal.
Bald statistics aren't very valuable. Another statistic is that 1 in 10 goals came from a corner in the premier League over the last five years. Fulham were the best corner takers last year. They scored 10 goals by plonking it on mitrovichs head.

What counts as a short corner? If you play it to a man five yards away who then crosses is that a short corner? How many touches are you allowing? If you play a short corner all the way back to your keeper who then hoofs the ball upfield which you then score from does that count?

I can't stand short corners. So deflating to see the ball being passed back to the keeper.
 
Jose Mourinho once joked that only the English celebrate a corner! In normal play you would never cross the ball from that position - it is just something that people's tolerance towards will increase over time.

On the one occasion (first half) that we put a corner in the box - it went straight to their keeper!

To be honest, I was surprised that we went short about 8 times in a row. Not really seen a team do it so consistently. The obvious idea is to create an overload and put a player into a dangerous area but our execution wasn't good enough. It appears to be part of relational football - a few teams (Fluminense and Leverkusen in particular) have been analysed about how they build passages of play by relationships in areas rather than on positions. We have been talked about as early adopters too.
 
Bald statistics aren't very valuable. Another statistic is that 1 in 10 goals came from a corner in the premier League over the last five years. Fulham were the best corner takers last year. They scored 10 goals by plonking it on mitrovichs head.

What counts as a short corner? If you play it to a man five yards away who then crosses is that a short corner? How many touches are you allowing? If you play a short corner all the way back to your keeper who then hoofs the ball upfield which you then score from does that count?

I can't stand short corners. So deflating to see the ball being passed back to the keeper.
We play enough boring passes as it is. Do we need any more? Everybody talks about the percentage of goals scored from corners. What is the percentage of goals scored from outside the box?
 
Dont mind a short corner if its to change angle of attack and swing it quickly to the far post. Not as if we dont have height in the team. Id have lenihan, fry, crooks, and rogers running in red arrow formation all just running towards goal at the far post. One of them might get a head or foot on a decent delivery whipped in but we seem to want to walk it in all the time.
 
I felt right from our first corner it looked like something they’d practiced in training but looked lost because the opposition was stood in different positions…
mcgree and McNair just looked at each other like “what do we do again “
I’ve been saying for ages were terrible at corners what ever we do with them..

McNair was the one to try something different today but it was still poor…
 
I felt right from our first corner it looked like something they’d practiced in training but looked lost because the opposition was stood in different positions…
mcgree and McNair just looked at each other like “what do we do again “
I’ve been saying for ages were terrible at corners what ever we do with them..

McNair was the one to try something different today but it was still poor…
We need a coach from American Football special teams. (y)
 
I have never likes the short corner thing in football by any team, it just seems like a quirky thing that stuck - I suppose good if you are trying to wind down the clock at the very end of a game but otherwise it just irks.
 
This got me thinking, when was the last time we were a real threat from corners.
Maybe the likes of Baird and Wilkinson.
 
We did score from a quick short corner at the end of last season which was more desperation than planned…

They have a use, but to continually try them when they’re not working is silly, the players need to be given freedom to mix it up…

The other issue is, our full in swinging corners are also poor as we often don’t beat the first man..
 
Presumably Boro practice these, but it was not noticeable. I have no doubt that Carrick knows we looked clueless.
 
The corners yesterday just seemed to sum the whole game up. We played them short, passed the ball round and then often didn’t get it anywhere near the goal.

At least with corners into the box it creates a bit of positive reaction from the crowd, playing the ball around without it often going anywhere near the goal helped deaden the atmosphere and the opposition.
 
The biggest problem we have with all set plays especially corners is we dont have anyone who can whip in a decent ball. Look at the delivery luton had against Sunderland in the playoffs every ball was an absolute beauty. Someone mentioned ayala being a threat he wouldn’t in this boro team because of the pitiful delivery. To those who suggest we have to copy city and football has moved on thats absolute nonsense and luton are proof in this division that the traditional corner is still an excellent tatic.
 
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