The Sending Off

coluka said:
Their fans are going on about Josh elbowing Ballard, who btw comes across as a bit of a tvvat, has anyone seen this or got a clip of it to see what happened, I can’t see Josh doing it deliberately, Ballard ŵas trying to stoke up josh to even up the reds imho.
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They’ve all conveniently forgotten Ballard left an elbow on Dieng in the first half as well.
 
Thought the referee had a poor game tbh.

No idea why Sunderland fans seem to think we were the ones getting away with things though.

He should have been red carded for that awful tackle to begin with, they should have had another sent off for leading with an elbow in to the face of Dieng, Jones booked for a perfect tackle, denied a stonewall penalty for a shove on Crooks.

The only bad decision that went in our favour was the third goal being offside.
 
TeaCider said:
Thought the referee had a poor game tbh.

No idea why Sunderland fans seem to think we were the ones getting away with things though.

He should have been red carded for that awful tackle to begin with, they should have had another sent off for leading with an elbow in to the face of Dieng, Jones booked for a perfect tackle, denied a stonewall penalty for a shove on Crooks.

The only bad decision that went in our favour was the third goal being offside.
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I reckon he was just on. Defender on their right side just plays him onside.
 
coluka said:
Agree. In fairness, I think Greenwood who was on a yellow got away with one early in the second half too though it should be said, could have easily got a second yellow.
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Yeah I thought that too, I was ready to be raging with him. I was convinced the ref would take any opportunity to even it up.
 
My initial reaction would be fury if we had a player sent off in those circumstances, but they are ultimately right to blame the player: he's needlessly given the ref a reason to do it.

Do we really know what was said? I trust Mogga implicitly, but the only way he could know is from the player. I accept that's what he told Mogga he said, but I've no idea whether he's a reliable type. He wouldn't meet Mogga's eye walking off.

As for Luke O'Nein, I'll think of him as Luke O'Ntoast from now on, because that's how Izzy had him.
 
Alex Greenwood has just received a second yellow card for apparent time wasting in the 38th minute.

Now that's ridiculous
 
Tryasize10 said:
Alex Greenwood has just received a second yellow card for apparent time wasting in the 38th minute.

Now that's ridiculous
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was just about to post about this. That was unbelievably harsh, 15 seconds to take a free kick, and she gets sent off. Didn't even seem to warn her to get on with it.
 
Luke O'Nein is a snidey, dirty talentless sh*t.

And for some reason Sky love him. Even the push on Crooks, camera angle from behind clearly showed two hands in the back, Sky were just "oh, errm...well...yeah ..errm...yeah".

🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Absolutely no one to blame other than Neil himself. If it's a tackle for instance there can always be a discussion about red/yellow as no two tackles are identical and there is naturally some interpretation by the ref.

Dissent, absolutely no interpretation, it's a yellow card offence. The lad either doesn't know the rules or is an idiot. Either way there is zero blame for the ref who literally had no other option than to book him.
 
Actually, (tongue in cheek), I was surprised that they allowed Jarred Gillett to referee a Boro game, what with having half of Australia 🇦🇺 in our squad. It must be like a homecoming for him - home and away!
 
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Few of their players let the occassion get to them, wound up far too much. Imsurprised no one tried to calm them down after 30 mins, but it is what happens when up against a bigger club and at home😁
 
first yellow should have been a red, no doubt, he came flying in with studs up. Could have broken Coburn's leg if he'd made contact. He got what he deserved.
And if you end up with 10 men then you deserve to get beat because you can't play to the rules.

On another note, it was fun to watch their supporters kick and punch their seats as the goals went in.
Icing on the cake!
 
I'm a bit disappointed in Mogga to be honest. He's saying his players should be allowed to swear at the ref. He should be better than that.

The only real defence would be the consistency angle. But I'm assuming no other player from either side swore at the ref and got away with it or we'd certainly have heard about it from the mackems.

So for 45 mins of a derby with plenty of very contentious refereeing decisions both teams managed to not swear at the ref. Which suggests it's not actually as hard to do as Sunderland seem to be making out and that every player on that pitch knew they shouldn't be doing it.

I'd be annoyed if it was the other round, but think I'd be more annoyed at one of our players being moronic than the ref.
 
Bristolboro said:
first yellow should have been a red, no doubt, he came flying in with studs up. Could have broken Coburn's leg if he'd made contact. He got what he deserved.
And if you end up with 10 men then you deserve to get beat because you can't play to the rules.

On another note, it was fun to watch their supporters kick and punch their seats as the goals went in.
Icing on the cake!
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There did seem to be a lot of seat abuse going on. More than I have noticed before in the crowd.

There will need to be some seat repairs before the next game.
 
It was an evenly balanced game that could have gone either way until the sending off.
But may be it was evenly balanced because Sunderland were cheating.
Sounds like the player tried to bully the referee into giving them a decision.
I doubt it was for the first time.
A lot of decisions seemed to go Sunderlands way in that first half.
The player may have screamed abuse at the ref several times in that game.
It must be hard to keep a clear head when 30,000 fans and several players are screaming at you to give each decision in favour of the home team.
Remember the outrage when we got a penalty at old trafford.
I think the ref may have just had enough and applied the letter of the law.
Perhaps he should have done that sooner but good on him.
 
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