The republicanism thread.

JM14 said:
Not so sure, went out today and everywhere was absolutely packed, significantly busier than a normal bank holiday too. Don’t think as many were bothered as the media liked to believe
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I guess depends where you live. Down here the place was empty, most pubs were shut and no restaurants open. It was like Christmas day in the streets.
 
Ziggy said:
in fact, we don’t actually live in a modern democracy.
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We do live in a democracy. The problem is that a lot of people don't get the government and governance they want, expect, and vote for, so they think they don't live in a democracy. It's like blaming the ref and the rules when your team loses.

As a republican I am not sure what the real role of the monarchy is but we'll have a monarchy for a long time yet so not much point in hoping for something else.

But if you don't like the government vote for another party but don't blame the electorate and call them stupid if they vote for someone else. They might have different priorities.
 
Randy said:
www.statista.com

Internet and social media users in the world 2023 | Statista

How many people use the internet in 2023? Several billion individuals who have access to the internet are social media users too.
www.statista.com www.statista.com

As of April 2022, there were more than five billion internet users worldwide, which is 63.1 percent of the global population. Of this total, 4.7 billion or 59 percent of the world's population were social media users.

Stands to reason if you have internet access you have access to live video feeds in this day and age.

From the same website,

In 2021, 5.36 billion people worldwide will be TV users, according to the Advertising & Media Outlook. The number of global TV viewers is set to steadily increase, and reach approximately 5.68 billion people by 2026.


83.40% of the world's population has a smartphone ( apps, access to the internet etc), that figure increases to 91.08% when you include ALL mobile phones.

www.bankmycell.com

4.02 Billion More Phones Than People In The World!

In 2024, the number of smartphone users worldwide is 6.93 Billion, which translates to 85% of the world’s population owning a smartphone.
www.bankmycell.com www.bankmycell.com
Interesting website really.

Also you forgot to mention that the current population figure for the planet is nearly 8 billion people, so 1 billion not having access to a phone doesn't stack up.

Even if you only clicked on footage for a brief few minutes it'll more than likely count as a 'view'.
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Even based on that it’s assuming the vast majority who was able to watch did which just isn’t correct. When you also deduct young children from the figure, consider time zones -two continents where the funeral happened through the night, the fact it was a normal working day for most of the world will take huge numbers off that figure, plus those who just aren’t interested (who actually do exist despite what the media say)
 
JM14 said:
Even based on that it’s assuming the vast majority who was able to watch did which just isn’t correct. When you also deduct young children from the figure, consider time zones -two continents where the funeral happened through the night, the fact it was a normal working day for most of the world will take huge numbers off that figure, plus those who just aren’t interested (who actually do exist despite what the media say)
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All I'm saying is it's not an impossible figure. There will be more people who watched it in various parts of the day than people think.

👍🏻
 
Nano said:
If it did become a mainstream news topic, how would BBC react. They are so pro-Royal but I'm not sure whether their impartiality will go as far as fair discussion on republicism Vs monarchism.
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I believe the monarchy is the one thing they are duty bound not to be impartial on. It will get as much of an airing as it usually does on the BBC, which is next to nothing.
 
Legz said:
I think banished is a bit harsh. I'm a royalist but have no problems with people having a different point of view. I think the problem is if you want to air your views do it on your own thread and not one that was blatantly in full support of the royals. Doing it there was always going to annoy posters on that topic.
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but isn't a messageboard a place for discussion, and as long as it's done respectfully, then where is the harm. By the way BigRichard was blocked for just trolling rather than any respectful debate on the subject
 
GazC_MFC said:
If you think America and the U.K. have working democracies, we’re a mile away ans getting rid of the monarch will not change that or make us more democratic
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doesn't that depend on the specifics of how you replace it? I mean to start with it's likely to bring about the downfall of the whole aristocracy including the house of Lords.

There are several reasons I want rid of the royals, one of the keys is that they have over the centuries prevented a proper written constitution, and set of rights for british people. Only ceding some rights to aristocracts, who in turn got bullied by the people to handing a bit out to the general populous such as voting rights.

Those aristocrats, including the royals, still hold the vast majority of power and influence and wealth in this country. They own most of the land, most of the wealth, much of the city property, most of the coastal waters, and of course most of the powers of lawmaking.

The monarch gets to have first dibs at amending any bills, then it goes to the house of commons, but, of course, on the tory side there are many non-commoners, many aristocrats in the government, so some of them get to dabble here, then it goes to the Lords where thanks to hereditary peers, and tory life time peers the aristocrats get a final block on our laws.

Get the aristocrats out of our system, they've proven over the centuries to be self serving. Let the people rule.
 
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dribble said:
Why are pro monarchy posting on this thread, when they were vehemently against any Republican comments on the many many posts over the last 2weeks comments .
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Because the head of the Monarchy had just passed away and it should have been about showing her respect, even if you are a Republican. Certain posters did appear to be purposely trying to antagonise others.

If Jeremy Corbyn passed away and there was a thread about him in which a poster commented, "I wonder did he admit to supporting the IRA before he died?" I'd find it equally shameful.
 
Would the armed forces manage as well without a monarch? It seems very important to the ex-services on here that there is a figurehead to support and defend.

Do republics have crapper armies?
 
dribble said:
Yes they do but the same debate was lambasted as disrespectful on other threads.
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I think it's becasuebit involved insulting the death of a human being. Discussing republicanism isn't abkut that. It's about political ideals. You can't really be inhumane by disrespecting political ideals
 
parmoboy said:
Because the head of the Monarchy had just passed away and it should have been about showing her respect, even if you are a Republican. Certain posters did appear to be purposely trying to antagonise others.

If Jeremy Corbyn passed away and there was a thread about him in which a poster commented, "I wonder did he admit to supporting the IRA before he died?" I'd find it equally shameful.
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That of course is your opinion and I don’t wholeheartedly disagree with it but it’s like a switch has been flicked today.All of a sudden the cost of living crisis has magically returned, the militant strikers etc.
Just doesn’t sit fight that so much could be spent on the funeral of one individual when the country is broken.
 
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