The real difference under carrick is goals

[Jedi boro]

For years under various managers we’ve always seemed to struggle to do the business in the final third meaning that we would often win by a very slim margin thus putting the pressure back on the side esp in the closing stages.

But under carrick even without yesterdays goal fest we regularly score two goals In almost every game under him.

It’s a remarkable change not just in style (as we now take games to the other side playing on the front foot) but in attitude this team expects to score.

Sides now know that to beat or even draw with us they need to score and probably more than one as well it’s a huge psychological edge.

 

[HarryVegas]

It's confidence. He's a modern manager who understands the power of praise, as opposed to getting on players' backs or publicly calling them out.

 

[Cardiffdaffs]

Definitely confidence. It is incredible how a change in man management style can afffect the players so positively.

 

[Nano]

Yeh, to be fair we were similar at times under Wilder. Teams that are playing well and are confident can score goals easily, especially when opposition collapses as Wigan have done twice against us this season. We also had a much higher xG than we had G at the start of the season under Wilder.

There are always matches where you should have scored 5 and you fail to score 1. When you are ahead and confident they start going in. That 1st goal is much harder to score than the additional ones for whatever reason.

 

[Laughing]

For years under various managers we’ve always seemed to struggle to do the business in the final third meaning that we would often win by a very slim margin thus putting the pressure back on the side esp in the closing stages.

But under carrick even without yesterdays goal fest we regularly score two goals In almost every game under him.

It’s a remarkable change not just in style (as we now take games to the other side playing on the front foot) but in attitude this team expects to score.

Sides now know that to beat or even draw with us they need to score and probably more than one as well it’s a huge psychological edge.

I suspect the goals are a by-product of a few things Jedi.

Better man management, Akpom playing deeper, Jones being freed up to get forward more. Also a settled back 4 that the team don't expect to leak goals. That confidence gets your midfield looking forward instead of over their shoulder.

 

[chickenrunner]

I suspect the goals are a by-product of a few things Jedi.

Better man management, Akpom playing deeper, Jones being freed up to get forward more. Also a settled back 4 that the team don't expect to leak goals. That confidence gets your midfield looking forward instead of over their shoulder.

Hmmmm.......not sure I agree with this. We do leak goals. We need to improve defensively AS A TEAM when we are out of possession. Looking at yesterday critically we offered up several decent chances in the opening period which a good team would have gobbled up (no one seems to have mentioned Steffen's great save).

Yours truly, Tony Pulis in fan form.

 

[festa5]

We're the top scorers outside the top 2 now. Think it's what most of us have been crying out for for years isn't it?

All the more impressive when you think we're doing it without any big money/big name striker or attacking midfielder signings (and having just sold our best one).

 

[Randy]

Is it too soon for us to dream of a potential playoffs victory?
Confidence could easily filter through to the crowd giving is that 12th man advantage at home and even in some cases away at poorly supported clubs.

 

[Chappy112]

It's unusual being the 3rd top scorers in the league, since we came back down we've been midtable to bottom of the league most seasons except the playoff season with Monk/Pulis I think we were 7th.

7th, 19th, 24th, 11th, 10th are where we've been each season since we came down for goals scored.

 

[Laughing]

Hmmmm.......not sure I agree with this. We do leak goals. We need to improve defensively AS A TEAM when we are out of possession. Looking at yesterday critically we offered up several decent chances in the opening period which a good team would have gobbled up (no one seems to have mentioned Steffen's great save).

Yours truly, Tony Pulis in fan form.

Id have to look at pre and post wilder but I suspect we don't ship as many goals as we did under Wilder. Yes Wigan got a couple of chances yesterday but look at any team in the division and they give chances away.

 

[BobUpnDown]

Playing to win & get both players & the ball inside their box.. not possession & passing above all.. attacking football with intent to score & allowing players to express themselves, use their skill, vision & ideas.. under Wilder we were over coached & shackled to a playbook, very, very little individuality..

 

[S7DiscoDown]

I think it's a mixture of things. That's clearly confidence and maybe a better coaching method. I imagine it's refreshing not to be thrown under a bus if you make a mistake.

Also the formation change has helped massively. Remember 'it wasn't the formation' under Wilder. I just think it didn't suit the players we had. Also left us wide open.

To think Hackney couldn't get a kick under Wilder. That in itself is frankly stunning that we've had him all along. That said fairplay to Leo. He thew him straight in.

 

[chickenrunner]

Id have to look at pre and post wilder but I suspect we don't ship as many goals as we did under Wilder. Yes Wigan got a couple of chances yesterday but look at any team in the division and they give chances away.

Oh we've undoubtedly improved defensively from Wilder's start to the season, we were an absolute shambles largely due to his tactics where one entire side of the team (wing back, centre half, and midfielder) would vanish up the pitch, lose the ball and leave us wide open, crackers.

 

[JJHJHonthewing]

Jones and Giles Wing backs and an unsettled back three with fry not in the first team what was wilder thinking. I was never a fan of him, Burnley was the catalyst but had doubts prior to that. His interview were to emotional, Up down up down, blowing his own trumpet etc etc. He really dud stink the club out. Prior to Burnley he could do no wrong though crazy how quick it changed.

Anyway, carrick Is the opposite In his interviews he's saying all the right things for me, fingers crossed he can get us up next year. Be interesting to see how the transfer windows go.

As mentioned above fair play to Leo for sticking hackney in the 1st team

I think it's a mixture of things. That's clearly confidence and maybe a better coaching method. I imagine it's refreshing not to be thrown under a bus if you make a mistake.

Also the formation change has helped massively. Remember 'it wasn't the formation' under Wilder. I just think it didn't suit the players we had. Also left us wide open.

To think Hackney couldn't get a kick under Wilder. That in itself is frankly stunning that we've had him all along. That said fairplay to Leo. He thew him straight in.

 

[Wiseman_Vaughn]

for me, the quality of delivery into the box has improved no end.

In general play, we seem to be NOT over egging anything. We just seem to be doing the simple things right and putting faith in key players such as Jones, Hackney and Giles

EDIT: Forgot the mention Chuba's build up play is excellent - he never puts a foot wrong. It's like gaining a creative midfielder - his timing getting into the box is also excellent!

 

[jeff_potato]

It's been done without playing overly complicated moves and formations. Runs made at the right time, men actually in the box and we're applying a lot more pressure with one/two touches before running.

...And a lot less of my personal bete noir, running to the corner, stopping it dead and waiting for their defence to mark up prior to lofting in a ball to a centreback.

 

[Randy]

for me, the quality of delivery into the box has improved no end.

In general play, we seem to be NOT over egging anything. We just seem to be doing the simple things right and putting faith in key players such as Jones, Hackney and Giles

EDIT: Forgot the mention Chuba's build up play is excellent - he never puts a foot wrong. It's like gaining a creative midfielder - his timing getting into the box is also excellent!

The quality of delivery that you mentioned has definitely been coached into them by Carrick. Carrick was one of the best passers in the premier league during his career.

 

[Wiseman_Vaughn]

The quality of delivery that you mentioned has definitely been coached into them by Carrick. Carrick was one of the best passers in the premier league during his career.

It looks like that - I'm not sure whether it's timing but it just works somehow and there seems to be players on the other end - simple as that! It's what we've been crying out for under numerous managers

 

[free_pint]

Chuba mentioned that he's been watching videos on Giles' crossing from all the clubs he's been at so he can time his runs to meet his crosses. Just little details like that, improve the end product no end.

 

[Diego]

Chuba mentioned that he's been watching videos on Giles' crossing from all the clubs he's been at so he can time his runs to meet his crosses. Just little details like that, improve the end product no end.

Yeah , comes across brilliantly does Akpom.