The end?
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This isn't the current version, but a previous iteration from 10 years ago.
The problem for Russia is that their troops are there under a UN peace keeping mandate. So they are protected to some degree .... ie Ukraine/Moldova/West can't really just waltz in and take care of them. If Russia Annexes Transnistria, that protection is gone and the Moldova asks for assistance.... and gets it.
Other brief news. Apparently Girkin lives.
Norton_Nomad
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Just seen snippets from Putins speech he’s giving today. The whole room look as interested as I used to look in maths at school.
Muttley
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If you are old enough to have watched the old Soviet leaders speak to the nation, like that, including the choreographed applause.
Imagine if you also knew that the teacher was likely a "supply teacher" dressed up to look like your maths teacher.
3 SU34s Gripened today, by lunchtime.
Decent_Left
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Its a good job its a leap year or they may have missed that February target they were set
Decent_Left
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Russian exceptionalism.
Solovyov off on one again. Shame he wasn’t droned.
The only times Russia/Soviets have defeated nations to their west have been in coalitions or through massive logistical support. Pathetic.
Solovyov off on one again. Shame he wasn’t droned.
The only times Russia/Soviets have defeated nations to their west have been in coalitions or through massive logistical support. Pathetic.
I would be extremely reluctant to describe the Soviet Union's efforts in WW2 as 'pathetic'.
Muttley
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masquesmog
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Royal United Services Institute - Ukraine
Not sure if this works. RUSI have set up a dedicated site for articles etc about Ukraine. Most of the pieces are in the public domain, a few are members only.
A recent podcast:
Russia's long war against Ukraine
If you don't know the institute.
The Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) is the world’s oldest and the UK’s leading defence and security think tank. Our mission is to inform, influence and enhance public debate to help build a safer and more stable world.
Not sure if this works. RUSI have set up a dedicated site for articles etc about Ukraine. Most of the pieces are in the public domain, a few are members only.
A recent podcast:
Russia's long war against Ukraine
If you don't know the institute.
The Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) is the world’s oldest and the UK’s leading defence and security think tank. Our mission is to inform, influence and enhance public debate to help build a safer and more stable world.
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There's a broader context (the EU...and friends like us... realising that it has to ensure its own security now that the US is having a meltdown) and the European forces will be used to police borders, the skies over Ukraine and the western black sea, where they'll be ensuring the safety of shipping, demining etc. Unfortunately, while the current regime is in charge in Russia, there is an ongoing threat, beyond Ukraine: Baltic states, Moldova, Suwalki Gap and the arctic (Svalbard). A coalition of European states under the JEDI umbrella have decided to act and be ready. They will also train Ukrainian forces in the NATO way and with NATO equipment, should the need arise for them to use them. I know a fair bit more, but I don't think I'm at liberty to post it here. One of the main driving forces behind this coalition is Petr Pavel.... a former General himself. The intention is to render Trump's election to power moot as far as Europe is concerned, should it happen.
Fattyfoggon
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Fair play to him, I kind of think he just trying to get Europe and the US to focus their minds and to keep all options open and not to get complacent about Ukraine and the threat to Europe from Russia. I doubt he really is considering sending troops any time soon, but it also sends a warning to Russia that Europe won't let the Russians win
It's a bit more than that. He was one of the first ports of call for Petr Pavel. Then he and Macron toured other European countries (including ours) enlisting support. There are already European forces on the ground in the western portion of Ukraine .... they are "training" at the moment, shall we say.
Druss_The_Legend
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For some reason Petr Pavel reminds me of Leo Percovich(in looks I mean) I thought this when he became president last year.
Fattyfoggon
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yeah I noticed Sunak recently quoted in the guardian that there are British personnel in Ukraine helping out at the moment, not sure what the below means lol
"Beyond the small number of personnel we do have in country supporting the armed forces of Ukraine, we haven’t got any plans for large-scale deployment,”
