The end?

This so far crazy war has just ramped up the crazy level a few notches.

One General Mikhail Mizintsev is now running the Russian side of it. I believe he was in charge of the massacre at Mariupol. Basically a headcase. Knows only brutality and more brutality.
Orders are to gun down any Russian who tries to flee or surrender.
Example, yesterday, raw recruits, untrained and straight from the mobilisation were sent through the Russian defensive mine fields. Any that thought twice were shot from behind. Apparently, and this is what I'm told, the Ukrainians realised what was happening and had to take out the firing squad before trying to rescue the hapless middle aged fatties.

"The 204th regiment was rapidly whittled down from 600 men to 18 men alive in the latest counteroffensive in Luhansk. Before that half of them died in Izium, they then got 300 Meat Targets to fill up the numbers, and then they where sent straight against the Ukrainians without any heavy equipment.

It is really turning out that the recruits are not trained, they are just sent to pile up into a wall of dead bodies to slow down the Ukrainians.
This is not war, this is just mindless slaughter, this is Mizintsev. The last true Russian slaughter general.

Inside Russia people have started torching themselves instead of going, one shot the head Kommissar at the inscription office, and a true dingbat attacked a school and killed 15 children. The last one did it to show his support of the war.
30 percent of the Kommissars are refusing to do the conscripting, and 25 percent of the Governors have refused the mobilisation, or fled their districts.

Russia is now limiting more channels, among other things they just stopped VKontakte.
Konstantin have gone offline. Hopefully he is okay.
Most other Russian Vloggers have either fled now, or been pressganged into either the army or into sending Propaganda, Niki Proshin as the leading example.
And the Molotov cocktails have started to fly, mostly into army installations like recruitment offices and other things, but there is a lot of them flying. I think soon the will start to fly against police.
Dagestan is now in low level civil war."

And more depressing news from Oresund.
"More planes arrived today, B1s, F22s, F35s, A10s, and a couple of B2s and B52s thundered past.
The B2s have a very peculiar sound. I think I can soon walk on the navy ships all the way to Kaliningrad without getting wet feet.
The five largest cities are now under constant iron-domes with NASAMS and Patriots, feels oddly comforting.
Today the NATO troops on the borders to Ukraine, Russia and Belarus reached 300 000. Together with the ships and air power amassed that is roughly what is needed to attack. Add to that another 150 000 Finns and Swedes (thanks to Erdögan we are still not NATO, but neither we nor NATO seems to bother with that distinction now).
I think we are very near war now.
NATO is heavily hinting at going nuclear now if Russia is using nukes in Ukraine, the target is supposedly Belarus.
It is now all up to the Russian population, remove Putin, or hell opens up".

Got a hell of a lot more through. Just reading and digesting it all.
Why do you believe we are very near war now?
 
This so far crazy war has just ramped up the crazy level a few notches.

One General Mikhail Mizintsev is now running the Russian side of it. I believe he was in charge of the massacre at Mariupol. Basically a headcase. Knows only brutality and more brutality.
Orders are to gun down any Russian who tries to flee or surrender.
Example, yesterday, raw recruits, untrained and straight from the mobilisation were sent through the Russian defensive mine fields. Any that thought twice were shot from behind. Apparently, and this is what I'm told, the Ukrainians realised what was happening and had to take out the firing squad before trying to rescue the hapless middle aged fatties.

"The 204th regiment was rapidly whittled down from 600 men to 18 men alive in the latest counteroffensive in Luhansk. Before that half of them died in Izium, they then got 300 Meat Targets to fill up the numbers, and then they where sent straight against the Ukrainians without any heavy equipment.

It is really turning out that the recruits are not trained, they are just sent to pile up into a wall of dead bodies to slow down the Ukrainians.
This is not war, this is just mindless slaughter, this is Mizintsev. The last true Russian slaughter general.

Inside Russia people have started torching themselves instead of going, one shot the head Kommissar at the inscription office, and a true dingbat attacked a school and killed 15 children. The last one did it to show his support of the war.
30 percent of the Kommissars are refusing to do the conscripting, and 25 percent of the Governors have refused the mobilisation, or fled their districts.

Russia is now limiting more channels, among other things they just stopped VKontakte.
Konstantin have gone offline. Hopefully he is okay.
Most other Russian Vloggers have either fled now, or been pressganged into either the army or into sending Propaganda, Niki Proshin as the leading example.
And the Molotov cocktails have started to fly, mostly into army installations like recruitment offices and other things, but there is a lot of them flying. I think soon the will start to fly against police.
Dagestan is now in low level civil war."

And more depressing news from Oresund.
"More planes arrived today, B1s, F22s, F35s, A10s, and a couple of B2s and B52s thundered past.
The B2s have a very peculiar sound. I think I can soon walk on the navy ships all the way to Kaliningrad without getting wet feet.
The five largest cities are now under constant iron-domes with NASAMS and Patriots, feels oddly comforting.
Today the NATO troops on the borders to Ukraine, Russia and Belarus reached 300 000. Together with the ships and air power amassed that is roughly what is needed to attack. Add to that another 150 000 Finns and Swedes (thanks to Erdögan we are still not NATO, but neither we nor NATO seems to bother with that distinction now).
I think we are very near war now.
NATO is heavily hinting at going nuclear now if Russia is using nukes in Ukraine, the target is supposedly Belarus.
It is now all up to the Russian population, remove Putin, or hell opens up".

Got a hell of a lot more through. Just reading and digesting it all.

Thanks for sharing. The true horrors of war in full flow now 😞
Can’t get my head around this happening in this day and age. I really hope the good people of Russia manage to oust the devil soon and at least get around the table to end this completely unnecessary slaughter.
Several years ago I was in St Petersburg on a ship, working with both Ukrainians and Russians, and I remember the drills going on on the quayside next to a few old submarines and war ships. This Ukrainian lad, who was ex-military, turned to me and said ‘this isn’t normal morning routine drills. These men are preparing for war’. It was probably 6 years ago now but at the time I remember thinking ‘nah, surely the lessons of history will prevent anything serious ever happening in the civilised world again’. How foolish I was 😞
 
I read a book a long while ago where there was a limited nuclear exchange and Minsk was the NATO target as a response to an attack on Birmingham.

I think Birmingham was the case study for the effect of a certain yield nuclear device so the book used that to describe the situation. Not a pleasant read......
 
Why do you believe we are very near war now?

Not me, my recently ex-military friend's words in quotation marks.

He still has contacts on the ground in Ukraine and Russia.
Putin and all his generals have been informed of exactly what catastrophic consequences there will be if Russia takes the nuke option in Ukraine.
They ain't happy.

Black sea fleet, arctic and baltic fleets will be blitzed.
 
I read a book a long while ago where there was a limited nuclear exchange and Minsk was the NATO target as a response to an attack on Birmingham.

I think Birmingham was the case study for the effect of a certain yield nuclear device so the book used that to describe the situation. Not a pleasant read......

There have been two well known war games where Belarussian cities are targets.
 
This so far crazy war has just ramped up the crazy level a few notches.

One General Mikhail Mizintsev is now running the Russian side of it. I believe he was in charge of the massacre at Mariupol. Basically a headcase. Knows only brutality and more brutality.
Orders are to gun down any Russian who tries to flee or surrender.
Example, yesterday, raw recruits, untrained and straight from the mobilisation were sent through the Russian defensive mine fields. Any that thought twice were shot from behind. Apparently, and this is what I'm told, the Ukrainians realised what was happening and had to take out the firing squad before trying to rescue the hapless middle aged fatties.

"The 204th regiment was rapidly whittled down from 600 men to 18 men alive in the latest counteroffensive in Luhansk. Before that half of them died in Izium, they then got 300 Meat Targets to fill up the numbers, and then they where sent straight against the Ukrainians without any heavy equipment.

It is really turning out that the recruits are not trained, they are just sent to pile up into a wall of dead bodies to slow down the Ukrainians.
This is not war, this is just mindless slaughter, this is Mizintsev. The last true Russian slaughter general.

Inside Russia people have started torching themselves instead of going, one shot the head Kommissar at the inscription office, and a true dingbat attacked a school and killed 15 children. The last one did it to show his support of the war.
30 percent of the Kommissars are refusing to do the conscripting, and 25 percent of the Governors have refused the mobilisation, or fled their districts.

Russia is now limiting more channels, among other things they just stopped VKontakte.
Konstantin have gone offline. Hopefully he is okay.
Most other Russian Vloggers have either fled now, or been pressganged into either the army or into sending Propaganda, Niki Proshin as the leading example.
And the Molotov cocktails have started to fly, mostly into army installations like recruitment offices and other things, but there is a lot of them flying. I think soon the will start to fly against police.
Dagestan is now in low level civil war."

And more depressing news from Oresund.
"More planes arrived today, B1s, F22s, F35s, A10s, and a couple of B2s and B52s thundered past.
The B2s have a very peculiar sound. I think I can soon walk on the navy ships all the way to Kaliningrad without getting wet feet.
The five largest cities are now under constant iron-domes with NASAMS and Patriots, feels oddly comforting.
Today the NATO troops on the borders to Ukraine, Russia and Belarus reached 300 000. Together with the ships and air power amassed that is roughly what is needed to attack. Add to that another 150 000 Finns and Swedes (thanks to Erdögan we are still not NATO, but neither we nor NATO seems to bother with that distinction now).
I think we are very near war now.
NATO is heavily hinting at going nuclear now if Russia is using nukes in Ukraine, the target is supposedly Belarus.
It is now all up to the Russian population, remove Putin, or hell opens up".

Got a hell of a lot more through. Just reading and digesting it all.
Sounds fairly terrifying
 
I read that. Basically we need Putin gone, but we need to be very careful who takes his place.
The West let Russia down when we "won" the Cold War, instead of offering them help and aid we left them to stew in their own mess allowing the rise of the Oligarchs and ultimately Putin.

We need to remember that the Russian people are not Putin (yes there are some nationalistic nutters but we have the same here) people just want to live their lives in peace in the hope that their children and grandchildren will have good lives. When this war stops and Putin goes we need to help Russia not punish it.
 
The West let Russia down when we "won" the Cold War, instead of offering them help and aid we left them to stew in their own mess allowing the rise of the Oligarchs and ultimately Putin.

We need to remember that the Russian people are not Putin (yes there are some nationalistic nutters but we have the same here) people just want to live their lives in peace in the hope that their children and grandchildren will have good lives. When this war stops and Putin goes we need to help Russia not punish it.

Great points, but we didn’t just leave them to stew, there was a fair bit of rampant capitalist exploitation too.
 
This so far crazy war has just ramped up the crazy level a few notches.

One General Mikhail Mizintsev is now running the Russian side of it. I believe he was in charge of the massacre at Mariupol. Basically a headcase. Knows only brutality and more brutality.
Orders are to gun down any Russian who tries to flee or surrender.
Example, yesterday, raw recruits, untrained and straight from the mobilisation were sent through the Russian defensive mine fields. Any that thought twice were shot from behind. Apparently, and this is what I'm told, the Ukrainians realised what was happening and had to take out the firing squad before trying to rescue the hapless middle aged fatties.

"The 204th regiment was rapidly whittled down from 600 men to 18 men alive in the latest counteroffensive in Luhansk. Before that half of them died in Izium, they then got 300 Meat Targets to fill up the numbers, and then they where sent straight against the Ukrainians without any heavy equipment.

It is really turning out that the recruits are not trained, they are just sent to pile up into a wall of dead bodies to slow down the Ukrainians.
This is not war, this is just mindless slaughter, this is Mizintsev. The last true Russian slaughter general.

Inside Russia people have started torching themselves instead of going, one shot the head Kommissar at the inscription office, and a true dingbat attacked a school and killed 15 children. The last one did it to show his support of the war.
30 percent of the Kommissars are refusing to do the conscripting, and 25 percent of the Governors have refused the mobilisation, or fled their districts.

Russia is now limiting more channels, among other things they just stopped VKontakte.
Konstantin have gone offline. Hopefully he is okay.
Most other Russian Vloggers have either fled now, or been pressganged into either the army or into sending Propaganda, Niki Proshin as the leading example.
And the Molotov cocktails have started to fly, mostly into army installations like recruitment offices and other things, but there is a lot of them flying. I think soon the will start to fly against police.
Dagestan is now in low level civil war."

And more depressing news from Oresund.
"More planes arrived today, B1s, F22s, F35s, A10s, and a couple of B2s and B52s thundered past.
The B2s have a very peculiar sound. I think I can soon walk on the navy ships all the way to Kaliningrad without getting wet feet.
The five largest cities are now under constant iron-domes with NASAMS and Patriots, feels oddly comforting.
Today the NATO troops on the borders to Ukraine, Russia and Belarus reached 300 000. Together with the ships and air power amassed that is roughly what is needed to attack. Add to that another 150 000 Finns and Swedes (thanks to Erdögan we are still not NATO, but neither we nor NATO seems to bother with that distinction now).
I think we are very near war now.
NATO is heavily hinting at going nuclear now if Russia is using nukes in Ukraine, the target is supposedly Belarus.
It is now all up to the Russian population, remove Putin, or hell opens up".

Got a hell of a lot more through. Just reading and digesting it all.
Good news in Luhansk - not the deaths but the military ability of the invaders to defend their ill gotten gains of land
Terrible that it is sending unarmed unfit men to their deaths - basically deliberately to be a barrier of dead bodies from reading that post
I am would be surprised if the Ukrainian army would be too bothered about 'rescuing' - as anti-Russian sentiment in Ukraine seems to be against the whole population whenever I've seen documentaries or read articles from reporters there. It's not just felt against the dictator
 
Meanwhile it looks like those naughty Scandinavians have carried out their threat against Nordstream 1&2.
 
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