Talk about desperation.....you couldn’t make this up!!

The land will just get used for fox hunting after Bunter gives his lads and lasses a free vote.

It's what the Red Wall voters want apparently.
 
NYboro said:
I'm not sure why; they have a dreadful record on environmental issues.
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Low standard, cheaper meat incoming. Our farmers won't be able to compete, and this is just the start of it with no quota, no tariff trade deals that'll get lined up. British businesses thrown under the bus by Brexit. I think this is the opposite to what a lot of people who voted for it wanted.
 
WoodallServices said:
UK civil servants are ”preparing to pay” British farmers to retire or switch from farming in order to get a trade deal with Australia and New Zealand!!
That should leave a lot of farms to be bought up by Tories and their mates to make a killing by building housing on them!
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You made that last bit up.
 
Centralscrutinizer said:
Low standard, cheaper meat incoming. Our farmers won't be able to compete, and this is just the start of it with no quota, no tariff trade deals that'll get lined up. British businesses thrown under the bus by Brexit. I think this is the opposite to what a lot of people who voted for it wanted.
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Wait, Aussie and New Zealand meat is poor quality?
 
I've had plenty of lamb over the years - 2 legs stand out, the first was one I forgot about ( not sure of the origin - though not frozen ),- it was actually just 1 day over it's use by, and when slicing the package it was slighty greeny/grey and a fair old whiff. I mean this was starting to rot,no mistake.

Not wanting to get into trouble with the good lady, washed the slime orf, added the usual seasoning and roasted as normal - she declared it as amazing 😳. bear in mind she is not a big meat eater due to her upbringing and culture - and is quite finikitty when it comes to dead beasties.
But more pertinent to the subject - the last Frozen leg was from New Zealand - unanimously declared the best ever.
Maybe NZ lamb is just great generally, or this was a one off, or perhaps even the freezing helped to break down the muscle cells leaving it soft and juicy - who knows.
 
zzzzz said:
You are correct that the scheme offering retirement is not linked to the Oz trade deal.

However I know of no other private businesses that get as much state aid as farmers and landowners. As much as £21k a year on average for doing what they would normally do anyway.

"Ultimately it is the consumer that benefits" To a small degree but the main benficiary is the farmer/landowner.

You don't see many of them going bust!
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Remember the owld feller retiring in his seventies, knackered, don’t remember the government deciding he should be given a lumper for doing it. Guess he should have been a land owner then the government would have helped him, or he could have sold his land because owning it isn’t a right it’s a commercial business.
 
Lets pay someone to not produce
And lets pay someone just because they own land
Then lets pay someone to look after their land
And when he's done lets give him a nice fat lumper to retire.
 
Randy said:
Wait, Aussie and New Zealand meat is poor quality?
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Any meat from there previously was to EU standards. NZ has dedicated abbatoirs etc to cater to the EU market. We're not going to stay in alignment with EU standards, more seemingly as a matter of Brexit ideology, and I wouldn't hold out much hope of us being more stringent, rather we'll regress to help rush through the symbolic "global Britain" trade deal.
 
Centralscrutinizer said:
Any meat from there previously was to EU standards. NZ has dedicated abbatoirs etc to cater to the EU market. We're not going to stay in alignment with EU standards, more seemingly as a matter of Brexit ideology, and I wouldn't hold out much hope of us being more stringent, rather we'll regress to help rush through the symbolic "global Britain" trade deal.
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Never had a bad quality cut of meat imported from NZ even when frozen.
Surely suppliers in NZ aren't going to suddenly drop their standards just because the UK isn't in the EU anymore?
 
Randy said:
Never had a bad quality cut of meat imported from NZ even when frozen.
Surely suppliers in NZ aren't going to suddenly drop their standards just because the UK isn't in the EU anymore?
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Maybe/Maybe not. The NZ meat is marketed as a premium product. But, in the main, we'll be importing mass produced meat from Australia, it'll be down to whatever standard is agreed by our trade deal superstar Liz Truss. Our farmers won't be able to compete. Also If/when meat below EU standards gets into our food chain UK meat product exports to the EU will be killed.
 
Randy said:
Never had a bad quality cut of meat imported from NZ even when frozen.
Surely suppliers in NZ aren't going to suddenly drop their standards just because the UK isn't in the EU anymore?
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New Zealand are in the A tier of animal welfare assessments, as are the UK. Australia, USA and Canada are in tier C.
 
Bernie's view said:
Lots of misinformation on this thread. The idea, as I understand it to help older farmers to retire to allow younger people into the industry. The average age of UK farmers is pushing 60. Many are asset rich but cash poor and cant afford to retire. As far as I know there is no connection to the Australia deal. The subsidies that farmers receive basically mean that supermarkets can buy food cheaper. Ultimately it is the consumer that benefits. The payments were originally brought in to boost food production when the country couldn't produce enough. Farmers used this income to improve efficiencies and ultimately started to produce surpluses in some areas. Going forward all payments to farmers will be "earned" by protecting the environment. This is optional so if you farm flat out intensively you will lose your payments. If you take measures to protect the environment then you will be compensated for the loss of income from your core business. I am in favour of this new format as I already farm with the environment in mind and have been in environment schemes for the last 15 years. The only caveat is that the balance has to be right between food production, employment and the environment.
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Couldn't make this up..Certain posters letting their Remain bias get in the way of the truth. Thanks Bernie for posting the real reason for this.
 
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