Opportunity to start up a fox breeding farm.The land will just get used for fox hunting after Bunter gives his lads and lasses a free vote.
It's what the Red Wall voters want apparently.
Low standard, cheaper meat incoming. Our farmers won't be able to compete, and this is just the start of it with no quota, no tariff trade deals that'll get lined up. British businesses thrown under the bus by Brexit. I think this is the opposite to what a lot of people who voted for it wanted.I'm not sure why; they have a dreadful record on environmental issues.
We can just turn the countryside into a big farming theme park.The land will just get used for fox hunting after Bunter gives his lads and lasses a free vote.
It's what the Red Wall voters want apparently.
You made that last bit up.UK civil servants are ”preparing to pay” British farmers to retire or switch from farming in order to get a trade deal with Australia and New Zealand!!
That should leave a lot of farms to be bought up by Tories and their mates to make a killing by building housing on them!
True.You made that last bit up.
Wait, Aussie and New Zealand meat is poor quality?Low standard, cheaper meat incoming. Our farmers won't be able to compete, and this is just the start of it with no quota, no tariff trade deals that'll get lined up. British businesses thrown under the bus by Brexit. I think this is the opposite to what a lot of people who voted for it wanted.
No I didn’t, it’s what I think! I’ve never been a betting man but even I’d have a tenner on that.You made that last bit up.
Remember the owld feller retiring in his seventies, knackered, don’t remember the government deciding he should be given a lumper for doing it. Guess he should have been a land owner then the government would have helped him, or he could have sold his land because owning it isn’t a right it’s a commercial business.You are correct that the scheme offering retirement is not linked to the Oz trade deal.
However I know of no other private businesses that get as much state aid as farmers and landowners. As much as £21k a year on average for doing what they would normally do anyway.
"Ultimately it is the consumer that benefits" To a small degree but the main benficiary is the farmer/landowner.
You don't see many of them going bust!
Any meat from there previously was to EU standards. NZ has dedicated abbatoirs etc to cater to the EU market. We're not going to stay in alignment with EU standards, more seemingly as a matter of Brexit ideology, and I wouldn't hold out much hope of us being more stringent, rather we'll regress to help rush through the symbolic "global Britain" trade deal.Wait, Aussie and New Zealand meat is poor quality?
Never had a bad quality cut of meat imported from NZ even when frozen.Any meat from there previously was to EU standards. NZ has dedicated abbatoirs etc to cater to the EU market. We're not going to stay in alignment with EU standards, more seemingly as a matter of Brexit ideology, and I wouldn't hold out much hope of us being more stringent, rather we'll regress to help rush through the symbolic "global Britain" trade deal.
Maybe/Maybe not. The NZ meat is marketed as a premium product. But, in the main, we'll be importing mass produced meat from Australia, it'll be down to whatever standard is agreed by our trade deal superstar Liz Truss. Our farmers won't be able to compete. Also If/when meat below EU standards gets into our food chain UK meat product exports to the EU will be killed.Never had a bad quality cut of meat imported from NZ even when frozen.
Surely suppliers in NZ aren't going to suddenly drop their standards just because the UK isn't in the EU anymore?
New Zealand are in the A tier of animal welfare assessments, as are the UK. Australia, USA and Canada are in tier C.Never had a bad quality cut of meat imported from NZ even when frozen.
Surely suppliers in NZ aren't going to suddenly drop their standards just because the UK isn't in the EU anymore?
Couldn't make this up..Certain posters letting their Remain bias get in the way of the truth. Thanks Bernie for posting the real reason for this.Lots of misinformation on this thread. The idea, as I understand it to help older farmers to retire to allow younger people into the industry. The average age of UK farmers is pushing 60. Many are asset rich but cash poor and cant afford to retire. As far as I know there is no connection to the Australia deal. The subsidies that farmers receive basically mean that supermarkets can buy food cheaper. Ultimately it is the consumer that benefits. The payments were originally brought in to boost food production when the country couldn't produce enough. Farmers used this income to improve efficiencies and ultimately started to produce surpluses in some areas. Going forward all payments to farmers will be "earned" by protecting the environment. This is optional so if you farm flat out intensively you will lose your payments. If you take measures to protect the environment then you will be compensated for the loss of income from your core business. I am in favour of this new format as I already farm with the environment in mind and have been in environment schemes for the last 15 years. The only caveat is that the balance has to be right between food production, employment and the environment.
I dread to think future food is procured in labs including meat .
Couldn't make this up..Certain posters letting their Remain bias get in the way of the truth. Thanks Bernie for posting the real reason for this.
Maybe the helping farmers retire and trade deal ramifications are just a coincidenceCouldn't make this up..Certain posters letting their Remain bias get in the way of the truth. Thanks Bernie for posting the real reason for this.