Sunak's windfall tax and grants

It’s easy to blame everyone else for your problems and as I have said people need to take responsibility for their actions and decisions. This give them more money for doing nothing so they can feel self worth. Getting up 5/7 days a week for graft gives you a feeling like you earn your money and it teach you to look after what you earn
 
If your lucky enough to own 2 houses, you get the £400 twice. Lucky for many of our MP's and the rest of the countries highest earners eh?

Fair point but a lot of people who own second houses rent them out to tenants who are responsible for paying their own bills.

The tenants will need the discount as much as anyone else.
 
It’s easy to blame everyone else for your problems and as I have said people need to take responsibility for their actions and decisions. This give them more money for doing nothing so they can feel self worth. Getting up 5/7 days a week for graft gives you a feeling like you earn your money and it teach you to look after what you earn
Many people are just not Capable of holding down a job. Not many employers cater for homeless people, mentally challenged, or those with addiction problems. Many ex service people are on the streets. A high proportion of care leavers end up homeless and in the justice system. And of course, just because you are lucky enough to have a job (or even two or three) doesn't mean that you have enough money to live off. I can tell you from experience working full time and still not earning enough being to pay my bills does not give me self worth.
 
So they can make the rent and pass the 'discount' onto the landlord.

Landlord = Rentier parasite. And that doesn't only apply to Tories.
That’s one way of looking at it…but it’s still better that the tenants get the discount surely…or are you advocating that only home owners rather than renters get the money?
 
Many people are just not Capable of holding down a job. Not many employers cater for homeless people, mentally challenged, or those with addiction problems. Many ex service people are on the streets. A high proportion of care leavers end up homeless and in the justice system. And of course, just because you are lucky enough to have a job (or even two or three) doesn't mean that you have enough money to live off. I can tell you from experience working full time and still not earning enough being to pay my bills does not give me self worth.
Homeless in Teeside how many
 
It’s easy to blame everyone else for your problems and as I have said people need to take responsibility for their actions and decisions. This give them more money for doing nothing so they can feel self worth. Getting up 5/7 days a week for graft gives you a feeling like you earn your money and it teach you to look after what you earn

It's also very easy to blame those in receipt of benefits isn't it, as you have done and are trying to justify.

I remember one story of a guy who was, as a child, dragged into a wood and raped. He couldn't ever admit it to his family and became withdrawn resulting eventually in him developing a serious drug problem. Tragically he took his own life. I suppose if he'd only had got a 5 to 7 day a week job to feel some self worth everything would have been fine (y)
 
You've just answered your own question.

There's no chance 100% of those who receive the £400 will put it towards their energy bill.

No doubt the majority will. But there'll be a fair number that will spend the £400 unwisely. Drink? Gambling? Drugs? etc.

Without doubt the £400 should've been credited on your energy bill, as that is exactly what it's there for.
How are you going to spend a £400 voucher on a bag of coke? Dealers deal in one currency only.
 
You've just answered your own question.

There's no chance 100% of those who receive the £400 will put it towards their energy bill.

No doubt the majority will. But there'll be a fair number that will spend the £400 unwisely. Drink? Gambling? Drugs? etc.

Without doubt the £400 should've been credited on your energy bill, as that is exactly what it's there for.
The £400 is going straight off bills so not sure what point you are making?
 
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It's also very easy to blame those in receipt of benefits isn't it, as you have done and are trying to justify.

I remember one story of a guy who was, as a child, dragged into a wood and raped. He couldn't ever admit it to his family and became withdrawn resulting eventually in him developing a serious drug problem. Tragically he took his own life. I suppose if he'd only had got a 5 to 7 day a week job to feel some self worth everything would have been fine (y)
I truly feel sorry for the person you are talking about but are you trying to say they all have these type of issues. I have said you can claim for two years then vouchers not saying let people starve but If you want to interpret it that way. I personally would not care which way the help was given to me should I need it just happy that I was helped
 
I truly feel sorry for the person you are talking about but are you trying to say they all have these type of issues. I have said you can claim for two years then vouchers not saying let people starve but If you want to interpret it that way. I personally would not care which way the help was given to me should I need it just happy that I was helped
People like you are the reason this country has gone to the dogs.
 
You ranted that the £400 should come straight off bills. It is, so what was the point of the rant except to have a go at people less fortunate than yourself?
Less fortunate then myself? What on earth are you going on about?

Like I said and I'll repeat. There'll be some who receive the £400 that is supposed to go on bills, but for one reason or another will use that money elsewhere, when it isn't for that purpose.

If you genuinely believe everyone will use that £400 towards their energy bills, then I'm sorry but you're deluded.
 
I truly feel sorry for the person you are talking about but are you trying to say they all have these type of issues. I have said you can claim for two years then vouchers not saying let people starve but If you want to interpret it that way. I personally would not care which way the help was given to me should I need it just happy that I was helped
Would you Omega? Would you like to stand in a queue at the checkout and pay for your food in vouchers in full view of other customers. Would you like to pay over the odds for your groceries as the shop would not be allowed to give cash as change and certainly would not have denominations of vouchers. Would you like to be told what you could and could not buy with your vouchers. Some unscrupulous shops would put up their prices for voucher payers.
The cost to the shop would go up due to extra administration, resulting in many shops refusing to take vouchers.
I know all this because this is what happened to asylum seekers when they were paid in vouchers. They were only allowed to buy the most basics of food. They were not allowed alcohol, tobacco, sweets, snack foods, female hygiene products, razors. This is the reason they are now paid in cash.
So wo would you really like to see those conditions forced upon you and be humiliated not once or twice but every week until you could find a job.
And as I said earlier, a lot of people are completely unemployable for many reasons not of their own making.
 
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