festa5
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So it's gone from "worst goalkeeping you've seen in a while" to "it would've been a top class save"
Almost as if you have an agenda against the lad.
Ever heard of confirmation bias?
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Almost as if you have an agenda against the lad.
Ever heard of confirmation bias?
Mr Sheppey
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Was not a fan of Steffen but he has improved so much lately, he still gives me heart flutters when he leaves his clearing until the last second though. I think we should look to sign him permanently for next season.
Glover_elbow
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He has improved significantly over the last couple months. Last night he seemed to be releasing the ball a lot earlier which is great theres nothing wrong with a long punt as well when we have a striker like archer.
MidlandsBoroFan
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Worst goalkeeping in a while comment was about him not looking at the ball or even being aware where it was when the attacker was heading it from 8 yards.So it's gone from "worst goalkeeping you've seen in a while" to "it would've been a top class save"
Almost as if you have an agenda against the lad.
Ever heard of confirmation bias?
Never said he should have saved it. But if you’re not looking you’ll never save anything. That header could have been soft and straight at him and he’d have struggled. Thats the point I was trying to make. Awful lack of concentration.
Diego
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@locomansimon what’s funny ?
Teesste
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A long punt? Surely you mean a laser guided long range pass!
MickaelDebevePhenomenal
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Good to see our fan base finally understanding the long range pass to archer ONLY works by drawing the opposing team out and inviting the press.
Steffen is and excellent keeper at most facets of the game. My only criticism is he lacks a little bit of agility, in part due to his size, and struggles to get down quickly to some shots. But then again if he didnt have that slight draw back, he'd be in the Prem and not playing for us .
Steffen is and excellent keeper at most facets of the game. My only criticism is he lacks a little bit of agility, in part due to his size, and struggles to get down quickly to some shots. But then again if he didnt have that slight draw back, he'd be in the Prem and not playing for us .
Billy69_uk
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A bigger error than Giles wandering out of position on the far post?
Billy69_uk
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As the corner is taken, you can see the Hull player impeding Steffen, whether its enough to be considered a foul is debatable. I just think Steffen has to be stronger.
What you can see is Giles stood on the line as its headed, but take a step outwards and the header goes past where he was stood. niave defending IMHO as he seems to get caught in 2 minds.
Either way, its a gift of an unchallenged free header for the striker, and a great finish.
What you can see is Giles stood on the line as its headed, but take a step outwards and the header goes past where he was stood. niave defending IMHO as he seems to get caught in 2 minds.
Either way, its a gift of an unchallenged free header for the striker, and a great finish.
MidlandsBoroFan
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Probably not. Huge errors from several defenders. But most on here think Steffen is blameless which I disagree with.
Wilder Times
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He's improving game on game for me that's all people can ask, I wasn't his biggest fan but I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.
It's just really easy to support the club at the moment, honest humble players who seem to care about the club playing fantastic football, behind the scenes we look like we're following a carefully laid out long term strategy, to top it off Carrick has been an absolute revelation the bloke hasn't put a foot wrong in my eyes.
I was buzzing last night, only Boro can do that. UTFB
Andy_W
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To be fair the near post is more of a danger in that scenario, but it's the defender's fault above nay for not stopping it zonally, or man on man.
Not to take away from them either though, great ball, perfect run and perfect header.
Little to no blame on the keeper there, these things just happen.
MidlandsBoroFan
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Have to disagree. The least I expect from a keeper at a corner is to concentrate and be ready to make a save. Whether he would have made the save is a different issue.
People aren’t criticising him because it was an excellent header into the far corner and the defending was shocking. Both good points. If it had been a soft header straight at him and it had gone in, people would be saying it was a mistake. My point is that I’m not sure he’d have saved a soft header because he was concentrating too much on the man next to him.
This is just after the header (from 8 yards). He’s still pushing the man and is in no position to make a save. Poor concentration for me, whether he’d have saved the header or not.
Actually where he’s standing, the header wouldn’t have been far away from him. He just wasn’t ready.
sherlock
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He's been absolutely brilliant lately. Hull's goal wasn't his fault.
He has made some fantastic saves in recent matches, including last night, and his distribution is phenomenal.
Key to how we play and the best keeper we've had in years. It's unfathomable to me that some still seem determined to give him stick at the slightest excuse.
He has made some fantastic saves in recent matches, including last night, and his distribution is phenomenal.
Key to how we play and the best keeper we've had in years. It's unfathomable to me that some still seem determined to give him stick at the slightest excuse.
Way_Out_West
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Is that not offside? That player with Stefan is surely interfering with play?
Norman_Conquest
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I think the look that Howson gives Steffen says it all. Steffen was shocked that the ball was passing him but the goalscorer also runs off Akpom who was slow to react.
That goal had been on the cards and we were under the cosh at the time.
Overall though, Steffen had a very good game, his save prior to the goal was excellent, his passing and making himself available for the pass was very good but his vision and the ball he played for Archer's goal was excellent.
He's just got that blip in him but don't all players.
HolgateCorner
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Just before kick off the teams swopped ends and Steffen got a great reception from the Red Faction as he ran up to take his place in goal and Carrick was noticeably watching every second of it.
Tbf to steffen he is maybe anticipating the header going into the near post but the Hull player blocks his movement in that direction. If he been able to step to his left unimpeded and plant his foot then he would have had a platform to dive in the opposite direction. He wouldve been unlikely to have reached it anyway, but the Hull player definitely made contact and stopped his movement, I've seen free kicks given for a lot less. Clever play by Hull though.
18MFC76
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I actually agree with you Midlands. A few people need to take the Rose tinted specs off here I think. First and foremost it's a brilliant header, would he have saved it? Who knows? probably not. However that doesn't diguise from the fact that he's not ready to even attempt to make the save as he's too busy giving the Hull player a shove. How can anyone not see this? It's not as if the Hull player is all over him. In his way yes but he's not even looking at the ball as it goes past him.
I dont mind Steffen by the way and like I say he's probably not even cost us a goal here as he may not have saved it anyway. It's him being distracted enough to not even attempt to make the save that's the issue here or at least even see which direction the ball is heading.