Starmers biggest problem.

I hear Mr Starmer has asked the PM for an extension to the furlough scheme for the hospitality industry today.

I'd go as far to say as extend it to the tourism sector too. It will be battered this summer.

I've a sneaky feeling it's one of the reasons Mr Sunak has announced basically a summer budget to be revealed on the 8th July.
 
changingman said:
I'm sure ensuring that current leader of the Conservative can't be "dropped" is pretty high on Dominic Cummings' list of priorities at the moment. Four years of constitutional and executive reform could, in theory, lead us down the one party state path.
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I assume the breaking up of the union would too. Isn't it a fact we wouldn't have had a socialist government since the late 40's without Scotland & Wales? I'm sure I read that somewhere.
 
SuperStu said:
See this is the other piece of conventional wisdom I always see, but I'm not sure how true it is these days. May had the shocking campaign in 2017, lost them their majority, and stuck around as leader for another two years. They even had their VONC and bottled it. She went of her own accord in the end.
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When May went the tories had just scrapped an election and she couldn't get brexit done. I am not sure how much of her own accord is true.

I cannot remember how Cameron left after the referendum, I think he decided enough was enough on his own, IDS was kicked out and I cannot remember what happened to Michael Howard, so you may have a point.
 
Bear I thought Johnson did a bit better today than previous PMQ's. He was still made to look foolish, and didn't answer the important question points, he did however seem a little calmer. The tory back bench seemed a bit more racous, which maybe papered over a little.
 
Laughing said:
Bear I thought Johnson did a bit better today than previous PMQ's. He was still made to look foolish, and didn't answer the important question points, he did however seem a little calmer. The tory back bench seemed a bit more racous, which maybe papered over a little.
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Claiming the Tories aren't ditherers or Labour not saying schools can go back when the Tories say the same.
 
The school thing is clearly nuts, what can Starmer do about that....He did make a great point on (Starmer) schools re-opening. He said if you can build hospitals in a few weeks, surely you can erect a few porta cabins for extra teaching space. I think he said that in an interview at a school visit he had.

My point was more to do about how Johnson handled the questions rather than whether his answers had any merit. They clearly didn't.

The SNP fella, Blackford, I think, got stuck in nicely though.
 
Basically Starmer has to regain the loyal labour seats lost at the last election. If my family are a typical of the country at large they will vote labour again simply because it's not Corbyn.

Brexit is finished as a subject.
 
bear66 said:
Starmer put Johnson under a bit of pressure today, so yesterday's £5 billion investment became £600 billion in 24 hours.
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It would be a good start. Sadly it was a Boris Johnson claim so all we know about the real figure as it will NOT be £600 billion.

Due to his pathological lying any figure Johnson quote will be a recipriversexcluson, a number whose existence can only be defined as being defined as being anything other than itself.
 
Laughing said:
I cannot remember how Cameron left after the referendum, I think he decided enough was enough on his own
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It was certainly his own decision if for no other reason than he did it before anybody else had a chance to even suggest it. IIRC he made the announcement at about 9am the morning after the Brexit vote. I remember it well because the tories were at the weakest point they'd been in since about 2005 and the Labour MPs immediately covered for them by resigning en mass in a coup attempt against Corbyn.

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When May went the tories had just scrapped an election and she couldn't get brexit done. I am not sure how much of her own accord is true.
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You're right that she couldn't get Brexit over the line. But that was true throughout 2017 and 2018 and didn't mean she had to go then. She survived her internal party VONC, the parliamentary VONC, parliament voting for a motion to hold her government in contempt... Fair enough, it was probably a decision she wouldn't have made if she could get her withdrawal agreement through parliament, but it was her decision.
 
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