Starmer's 5 Missions for Labour

[Nano]

Highest Growth in the G7
Clean energy superpower
Improve the NHS
Reform the justice system
Raising education standards


Nothing radical, nothing that will change anything for the good in the long run. No public ownership of energy or infrastructure. No re-distribution of wealth. Nothing to tackle the housing crisis. It's just more of the same, maintain the status quo but don't be as bad at the job as the Tories have been.

Could be written by any political party.

 

[Chris_Boro]

Highest Growth in the G7
Clean energy superpower
Improve the NHS
Reform the justice system
Raising education standards


Nothing radical, nothing that will change anything for the good in the long run. No public ownership of energy or infrastructure. No re-distribution of wealth. Nothing to tackle the housing crisis. It's just more of the same, maintain the status quo but don't be as bad at the job as the Tories have been.

Could be written by any political party.

Why does everything have to be radical?

Right now I'd settle with being able to see a GP, not having to wait months for routine treatment and properly funded education.

Removing the corrupt shower we currently have fleecing the nation and not requiring a loan for the weekly shop would be a bonus too.

This isn't a manifesto.

 

[FabioPorkpie]

Highest Growth in the G7
Clean energy superpower
Improve the NHS
Reform the justice system
Raising education standards


Nothing radical, nothing that will change anything for the good in the long run. No public ownership of energy or infrastructure. No re-distribution of wealth. Nothing to tackle the housing crisis. It's just more of the same, maintain the status quo but don't be as bad at the job as the Tories have been.

Could be written by any political party.

I’m no fan of Starmer, but I’d argue that as a minimum, 2 and 3 on that list will change things for the good in the long run (although the devil will be in the detail regarding the NHS).

 

[The Ruthsayer]

Don't scare the children!

 

[Nano]

Why does everything have to be radical?

Because the existing situation is dreadful. If you are driving 100mph towards a cliff edge then slowing down to 70mph isn't going to improve the situation much. You need to apply the brakes or completely change course.

Things don't need to be radical if things are ok but we haven't been ok for a long time.

 

[Johnny Vincents Motorbike]

Why does everything have to be radical?

Keith said he would be, he made a promise, when a politician makes 'a promise' its my expectation that they stand or fall on their delivery (or proven attempts) of the promise - if not, as a politician dont make promises, particularly ones that you cant or have no intention of delivering.

personally i didnt see his 10 promised pledges as being 'radical' - in my perceptions of these islands and the minimum required from a British Labour Party, theyre the basic stepping stones - the very least we should be expecting - otherwise there is very little point.

Keir Starmer - MP for Holborn and St Pancras and Labour Leader

Keir Starmer is a husband, father, and former lawyer who has fought for fairness his whole working life. He is now Labour Party leader.

keirstarmer.com

 

[TeessideCleveland]

Keith said he would be, he made a promise, when a politician makes 'a promise' its my expectation that they stand or fall on their delivery (or proven attempts) of the promise - if not, as a politician dont make promises, particularly ones that you cant or have no intention of delivering.

personally i didnt see his 10 promised pledges as being 'radical' - in my perceptions of these islands and the minimum required from a British Labour Party, theyre the basic stepping stones - the very least we should be expecting - otherwise there is very little point.

Keir Starmer - MP for Holborn and St Pancras and Labour Leader

Keir Starmer is a husband, father, and former lawyer who has fought for fairness his whole working life. He is now Labour Party leader.

keirstarmer.com

If it's ok to call him Keith is it ok to call St Jeremy supporters Cornynista?

 

[bumface]

If it's ok to call him Keith is it ok to call St Jeremy supporters Cornynista?

I've been called a lot worse on here. Sir Keith is a c*nt mate. He's ruined The Labour Party.

 

[viv_andersons_nana]

He’ll have ditched them all by summer.

 

[Colgates_shaving_foam]

Isn't any form of labour govement better than having who knows, braverman? perhaps? as pm.

Maybe I'm just too pragmatic and not idealistic enough but sometimes you have to choose the least worst option in my view.

 

[Maury_Povich]

1. Enable the torys
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[WoodallServices]

Highest Growth in the G7
Clean energy superpower
Improve the NHS
Reform the justice system
Raising education standards


Nothing radical, nothing that will change anything for the good in the long run. No public ownership of energy or infrastructure. No re-distribution of wealth. Nothing to tackle the housing crisis. It's just more of the same, maintain the status quo but don't be as bad at the job as the Tories have been.

Could be written by any political party.

Excellent point……but it’s not aimed at us, it’s aimed at the likes of that thick Monkey Hanger who embarrassed himself on the boat that time.

 

[viv_andersons_nana]

Isn't any form of labour govement better than having who knows, braverman? perhaps? as pm.

Maybe I'm just too pragmatic and not idealistic enough but sometimes you have to choose the least worst option in my view.

This is partly why people are p*seed off with his behaviour though. There were people who didn’t trust the last Labour leader - for whatever reason - and wanted someone more ‘electable’, someone untainted by accusations of anti-Semitism. Starmer put himself forward as that man. He made promises about what he would do. It turns out he was lying.

What you’re describing is UK politics in a nutshell. Two people sh*t in a pint glass. Ones had a curry, one’s had a curry and a multipack of Quavers. You decide to drink the first one because it’s the least appalling option of the two.

The issue is that it does not have to be like this. Nobody has to drink the sh*t. Starmer originally made promises about progressive policies, visions, building on the momentum built by a previous leader and a growing membership. He has abandoned everything he said. He’s saying you will have to drink the sh*t after all, but hey, look, at least it hasn’t got mashed up Quavers in it!

What makes anyone think this proven liar is any different to the rest of them? He lies to our faces, to the media, to the party, to its supporters, and is celebrated for it. Every. Single. Day. A liar is a liar IMO. How the f*ck can anyone vote for what him and his leadership group are proposing.

 

[viv_andersons_nana]

I apologise for the references to drinking sh*t. It just felt like the right comparison to make at the moment regarding the state of UK politics.

 

[h_m_boro]

This is partly why people are p*seed off with his behaviour though. There were people who didn’t trust the last Labour leader - for whatever reason - and wanted someone more ‘electable’, someone untainted by accusations of anti-Semitism. Starmer put himself forward as that man. He made promises about what he would do. It turns out he was lying.

What you’re describing is UK politics in a nutshell. Two people sh*t in a pint glass. Ones had a curry, one’s had a curry and a multipack of Quavers. You decide to drink the first one because it’s the least appalling option of the two.

The issue is that it does not have to be like this. Nobody has to drink the sh*t. Starmer originally made promises about progressive policies, visions, building on the momentum built by a previous leader and a growing membership. He has abandoned everything he said. He’s saying you will have to drive I the sh*t after all, but hey, look, at least it hasn’t got mashed up Quavers in it!

What makes anyone think this proven liar is any different to the rest of them? He lies to our faces, to the media, to the party, to its supporters, and is celebrated for it. Every. Single. Day. A liar is a liar IMO. How the f*ck can anyone vote for what him and his leadership group are proposing.

 

[Nano]

I’m no fan of Starmer, but I’d argue that as a minimum, 2 and 3 on that list will change things for the good in the long run (although the devil will be in the detail regarding the NHS).

Will it though? I fully agree with the principle of green energy but we produce less than 1% of the world's CO2 so nothing will change. What would make the biggest impact to people? Clean, green energy or cheap energy?

As for the NHS my guess would be that improving the NHS means removing it from crisis mode, not actually improving it and by that I mean sorting out the massive problems in social care which is causing the increase in demand and not just expanding the capacity of hospitals because that is just kicking the can down the road. In medical parlance we need to cure the cause of the problem, not just deal with the symptoms.

 

[h_m_boro]

I apologise for the references to drinking sh*t. It just felt like the right comparison to make at the moment regarding the state of UK politics.

I'm sure most of us have had no option but to drink Carling / Fosters at some point in our lives, so we get it ........

 

[MolteniArcore]

Lying nowadays seems to be reacting to the changing needs of the UK. Yeah, Starmer should stick to his pre-Covid pre-Ukraine pledges...

Give me strength.

Things change. Politics is about the now and the future, not about the past. If you have enjoyed the last 12 years then vote Tory, that's your right. If you want something different, vote Labour, Green, Lib Dem etc - just lets not have ANOTHER thread about Starmer that will inevitably end up with rows about Corbyn leaving the Tories off the hook yet again.

 

[Chappy112]

This is partly why people are p*seed off with his behaviour though. There were people who didn’t trust the last Labour leader - for whatever reason - and wanted someone more ‘electable’, someone untainted by accusations of anti-Semitism. Starmer put himself forward as that man. He made promises about what he would do. It turns out he was lying.

What you’re describing is UK politics in a nutshell. Two people sh*t in a pint glass. Ones had a curry, one’s had a curry and a multipack of Quavers. You decide to drink the first one because it’s the least appalling option of the two.

The issue is that it does not have to be like this. Nobody has to drink the sh*t. Starmer originally made promises about progressive policies, visions, building on the momentum built by a previous leader and a growing membership. He has abandoned everything he said. He’s saying you will have to drink the sh*t after all, but hey, look, at least it hasn’t got mashed up Quavers in it!

What makes anyone think this proven liar is any different to the rest of them? He lies to our faces, to the media, to the party, to its supporters, and is celebrated for it. Every. Single. Day. A liar is a liar IMO. How the f*ck can anyone vote for what him and his leadership group are proposing.

Don’t think I’d change a single word of this. I do understand why people vote just to get the Tories out but that’s not for me, I expect more from Labour and I feel like if I voted for that then I’m encouraging it.

 

[El Guapo]

Highest Growth in the G7
Clean energy superpower
Improve the NHS
Reform the justice system
Raising education standards


Nothing radical, nothing that will change anything for the good in the long run. No public ownership of energy or infrastructure. No re-distribution of wealth. Nothing to tackle the housing crisis. It's just more of the same, maintain the status quo but don't be as bad at the job as the Tories have been.

Could be written by any political party.

He has said he has not reneged on his previous thoughts on public ownership and that public ownership will be revisited in the years to come once they are in government. They can’t do everything at once. These 5 are a good starting point.