So.. Northern England had 60% Furlough, now it's affecting the south suddenly 80% is fine

The whole thing is just beyond a joke, the one and only positive I can take out of it now is if it occurs again in my lifetime at least we will know exactly not what to do.
 
Surely you aren’t suggesting this lockdown, like the first, was done with the south of the country at the forefront of Conservative Party thinking?
 
Many would have been made redundant on the back of furlough ending today. Now its been extended with no word on if the eligibility criteria being 19th March still stands for those 3 million plus people excluded.

I've been told to shield but not really shield but not go to a job that I lost due to Covid. Was hard enough finding a job as it was without this crapshaw.

All made up as they go, no plan in sight. Incompetence does come close to describing the abilities of this government.
 
Suddenly governments realize one hospital for 5 million people isn’t quite enough eh! So to compensate hey ask is all to look after ourselves and lockdown our lives.
 
Lottowyn said:
OK here in the N.Yorkshire Dales.
Maybe BJ has realised that whatever happens we will owe Trillions so why worry about being forever in debt, he'll be long gone.
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He's looking more and more incompetent as the days pass - surely once the 2nd wave is over he'll be off? Citing Long Covid or something he'll jump before he's pushed and Rishi will step in giving the Tories a much needed boost in the polls.
 
Nothing to see here. Every time Johnson looks on a map he sees the North on top, above the South again and remembers his commitment to the British people to try and level up.
 
LaPennaBianca said:
Imagine having voted for these Jokers and having expected anything else
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Totally appreciate your comment, but I guess nobody realistically envisaged we would be in the throws of a pandemic where just about every economy is faltering, apart from the country of its origin. To ensure the pain of this government ends in 2024, we do not need a Labour party hell bent on self destruction caused by the left of the party failing to let go of the experiment that was Corbynism.
 
It'll still be here on December the 80% too.

I imagine that's why the briefing was consistently delayed yesterday. Thrashing out the financial impact. You'll notice that the 80% furlough only applies to those in England only.

Rumour flying around twitter last night is that Sunak only agreed to this national lockdown and to the financial package involved of Johnson resigns after Xmas.
 
coluka said:
Totally appreciate your comment, but I guess nobody realistically envisaged we would be in the throws of a pandemic where just about every economy is faltering, apart from the country of its origin. To ensure the pain of this government ends in 2024, we do not need a Labour party hell bent on self destruction caused by the left of the party failing to let go of the experiment that was Corbynism.
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I appreciate this - but let's not blame Corbyn for Johnson's mistakes. Be as critical of Corbyn the man as you'd like - there's plenty of reason to be. But there is no chance he would have given £12bn to Serco, put his private sector mates in charge of Test and Trace and vaccine procurement and haggle with a northern mayor over furlough.

Nobody saw the pandemic coming, but we had nine years of Conservative party austerity that stripped away our capacity to deal with it. We had a lazy, dilettante liar at the head of an amoral cabal. The result it that tens of thousands of people are dead. How anyone can continue to think they have the country's best interests in mind confounds me. How anyone can vote for them after how they've handled this makes my stomach turn.
 
LaPennaBianca said:
I appreciate this - but let's not blame Corbyn for Johnson's mistakes. Be as critical of Corbyn the man as you'd like - there's plenty of reason to be. But there is no chance he would have given £12bn to Serco, put his private sector mates in charge of Test and Trace and vaccine procurement and haggle with a northern mayor over furlough.

Nobody saw the pandemic coming, but we had nine years of Conservative party austerity that stripped away our capacity to deal with it. We had a lazy, dilettante liar at the head of an amoral cabal. The result it that tens of thousands of people are dead. How anyone can continue to think they have the country's best interests in mind confounds me. How anyone can vote for them after how they've handled this makes my stomach turn.
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I agree with most of what you say there, I don’t think anyone on here is blaming Corbyn for Johnsons mistake though, least of all me. The point is, the past can never be undone, the future can be shaped, but only by making Labour electable again. The tories will get us through this pandemic, at a significant price though, in terms of both human life and financial cost. All we can realistically do is (by all means lawfully politically oppose where necessary) follow the rules put in place for now, to do anything else is a dangerous and potentially counter productive.
 
coluka said:
I agree with most of what you say there, I don’t think anyone on here is blaming Corbyn for Johnsons mistake though, least of all me. The point is, the past can never be undone, the future can be shaped, but only by making Labour electable again. The tories will get us through this pandemic, at a significant price though, in terms of both human life and financial cost. All we can realistically do is (by all means lawfully politically oppose where necessary) follow the rules put in place for now, to do anything else is a dangerous and potentially counter productive.
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Yes, fair.

Although I'm in no doubt that Sir Keir Starmer Knight of the realm will be painted as a just as much of a dangerous extremist as Corbyn. While the free market fanatic on a blue rosette will be a champion of British values.

It's not 1997 any more - Labour can't expect even an unfair shake.
 
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