So Fury/Joshua 14th August confirmed

Andy_W said:
Right, and I've ensured mine gets its far share, regardless? Why shouldn't it?

If he does the same it's no problem is it?

The point is the principle of the stacked odds against AJ, the amount I had to bet to ensure my charity got £25 shows it, it's a real world example so to speak. Obv not disrespecting any charities, I'm trying to ensure it's a "fair fight" between them, although I'm sure they're both deserving.
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If I have a bet with a mate we just call it a bet between us at the same price because we both think we’re gonna win. It’s for charity, it’s how charity bets tend to work.

odds this and odds that. It’s just a honourable bet between 2 people. Why should one person be out pocket than the other when you both think you are going to win. Ultimately it’s a bit of fun and for charity. But you’ve done a good job of sucking the fun out of it
 
Andy_W said:
Wasn't Ruiz leaner in the second fight? I can't remember to be honest.

He would likely have been fitter if so, but some guys can fight better or take it better when they have more beef. AJ's the opposite when he was too big it caused him problems, but he's learned that lesson now.

I do remember Ruiz going off the rails a bit mind, but can't remember when this was, but it kind of backs up how lucky he thinks he was (which he was).
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I think should go back and look at it. It’s well know that ruiz was undisciplined between fights and people were shocked at the weigh in
 
GazC_MFC said:
If I have a bet with a mate we just call it a bet between us at the same price because we both think we’re gonna win. It’s for charity, it’s how charity bets tend to work.

odds this and odds that. It’s just a honourable bet between 2 people. Why should one person be out pocket than the other when you both think you are going to win. Ultimately it’s a bit of fun and for charity. But you’ve done a good job of sucking the fun out of it
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That's up to you, do what you like (y) If the odds aren't even then one of you is not getting value, but if it's for a laugh and going from one person's pocket to the other, then that's fine of course, over time it will likely even out unless one of you is more clued up :ROFLMAO:

My entire point in the argument is that the odds should be even, but they're not (in the real world). I could take the evens bet but I don't need to, as I've got a better offer (which is better for my charity). I don't know this dude, so I'd rather just cover that direct.
 
GazC_MFC said:
I think should go back and look at it. It’s well know that ruiz was undisciplined between fights and people were shocked at the weigh in
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It didn't matter what he did to be honest, it was irrelevant, as he got lucky in the first one, and AJ wasn't going to make the same mistake twice.

If Ruiz couldn't keep it going, that's his own fault, it's part and parcel of being a fighter, you need to keep going, learn and get better. AJ can only beat what's in the top 10, who else is he meant to fight when Fury is off and Wilder won't fight or realise he's not worth the money he wanted.
 
Andy_W said:
It didn't matter what he did to be honest, it was irrelevant, as he got lucky in the first one, and AJ wasn't going to make the same mistake twice.

If Ruiz couldn't keep it going, that's his own fault, it's part and parcel of being a fighter, you need to keep going, learn and get better. AJ can only beat what's in the top 10, who else is he meant to fight when Fury is off and Wilder won't fight or realise he's not worth the money he wanted.
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You just waffling on here, I was just saying to boromart I think people over egg his performance in the 2nd fight

ruiz was clearly unfit, Joshua showed a different side. I’m just saying it wasn’t a vintage performance
 
GazC_MFC said:
I think you are getting carried away with aj’s performance. Ruiz was in worse condition than his first fight and didn’t half show. Was a great to see aj show a different skill set but it was hardly a vintage performance giving which ruiz it was
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I wouldn't say carried away, but people have always said AJ gasses, he was on his toes the entire fight, that is a big positive. Yes Ruiz psychologically let himself down, but, AJ still turned up and embarrassed him, boxing in straight lines, pawing with Ruiz, and effectively making him look third rate
 
BoroMart said:
I wouldn't say carried away, but people have always said AJ gasses, he was on his toes the entire fight, that is a big positive. Yes Ruiz psychologically let himself down, but, AJ still turned up and embarrassed him, boxing in straight lines, pawing with Ruiz, and effectively making him look third rate
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Fair enough assessment
 
GazC_MFC said:
If I have a bet with a mate we just call it a bet between us at the same price because we both think we’re gonna win. It’s for charity, it’s how charity bets tend to work.

odds this and odds that. It’s just a honourable bet between 2 people. Why should one person be out pocket than the other when you both think you are going to win. Ultimately it’s a bit of fun and for charity. But you’ve done a good job of sucking the fun out of it
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GazC_MFC said:
If I have a bet with a mate we just call it a bet between us at the same price because we both think we’re gonna win. It’s for charity, it’s how charity bets tend to work.

odds this and odds that. It’s just a honourable bet between 2 people. Why should one person be out pocket than the other when you both think you are going to win. Ultimately it’s a bit of fun and for charity. But you’ve done a good job of sucking the fun out of it
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“Yea sorry Macmillan, I was going to donate £25 but PaddyPowers odds just aren’t working for me”

I’m still not sure if I’m being the victim of a very long winded wind up!
 
Alzi said:
“Yea sorry Macmillan, I was going to donate £25 but PaddyPowers odds just aren’t working for me”

I’m still not sure if I’m being the victim of a very long winded wind up!
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Forget it, it was a tongue in cheek mathematical demonstration of the slanted public perception.

I get it, you didn't understand, and now you're trying to paint that misunderstanding as against charity, which it certainly wasn't :rolleyes:
 
Andy_W said:
Forget it, it was a tongue in cheek mathematical demonstration of the slanted public perception.

I get it, you didn't understand, and now you're trying to paint that misunderstanding as against charity, which it certainly wasn't :rolleyes:
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Tongue in cheek? You actually placed a bet expecting it to be replicated.
 
Fights on!

Fights off!

Fight might be on if someone give Wilder loads of money!

Fights on!

Fights off!

Fights cancelled!


Yes, just a typical build up.
 
PRetty ***ed off at Fury and his team, effectively telling the fans it's on....only to pull the whole thing a few days later. What an absolute timewaster and I wonder if he ever really fancied fighting Joshua.
 
BoroMart said:
PRetty p****d off at Fury and his team, effectively telling the fans it's on....only to pull the whole thing a few days later. What an absolute timewaster and I wonder if he ever really fancied fighting Joshua.
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How is this been landed at fury pulling it?
 
GazC_MFC said:
How is this been landed at fury pulling it?
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Well they (team Fury) didn't sign the AJ contract after telling everyone it was on, so I'm not sure who else you can put the blame at? Team Fury knew it was in arbitration and must have known it wasn't going well.
 
It's classic Fury mind games, which he's the best at, by a mile.

Fury's just signed that to get in AJ's head, he'll probably have to pay some cash to get out of it now, but he won't care, he's got AJ pi$$ed off which is his aim, and worth more to him than any fee he will need to pay (plus what he will make from a Wilder fight).

Same with the "bare knuckle" comment, directed to wind AJ up as there's no way it could ever happen and there's no way AJ could reply to that without looking weaker.
 
Andy_W said:
It's classic Fury mind games, which he's the best at, by a mile.

Fury's just signed that to get in AJ's head, he'll probably have to pay some cash to get out of it now, but he won't care, he's got AJ pi$$ed off which is his aim, and worth more to him than any fee he will need to pay (plus what he will make from a Wilder fight).

Same with the "bare knuckle" comment, directed to wind AJ up as there's no way it could ever happen and there's no way AJ could reply to that without looking weaker.
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the bare knuckle comment is. I think the contract thing isn't, it's just incompetence or posturing
 
BoroMart said:
the bare knuckle comment is. I think the contract thing isn't, it's just incompetence
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Doesn't seem that way from what he's saying on social media, apparently AJ was told there was arbitration going on.

Don't underestimate Fury's mind games though, it could be entirely possible. Either way it's done the job, so he won't be annoyed (behind the scenes).
 
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