So Farewell then BT Sport

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Wont be missed by many with their Champions League coverage. The guardian's take.

This was BT Sport’s last curtain call but, sorry to say, the Champions League final coverage was not widely applauded as “high performance”. Its properties now under new ownership, BT Sport’s channels will be replaced by something called TNT from July 18 and details remain sketchy about what sport will be on, who’ll be presenting it, and what it will cost to view. But one thing at least is certain: Jake Humphrey will not be the main host of the football.

Rio Ferdinand gave the presenter a generous farewell at the end of Saturday night and Jake will now spend more time with his High Performance Podcast audio series and his authorship of LinkedIn-tastic books like High Performance: Lessons From The Best On Becoming Your Best.

What lessons, then, might the new broadcaster learn from this weekend’s coverage? In terms of talent, analysis, news coverage, and what you might call an understanding of an event’s broader context, there is a lot to improve.

Firstly, the on-screen mob: hopefully BT kept the receipt for the hire of Mario Balotelli. Handing a new pundit his or her debut is always a gamble but the man who was one of football’s most enjoyable wildcards in his playing prime was a total plank on screen. Maybe nerves were a factor but it was genuinely surprising how subdued he seemed.

This could in part be due to a strategy that BT had embraced throughout its tenure: absolutely crowding the screen with pundits, giving Humphrey and main man Ferdinand a cast of thousands including Cesc Fabregas, Joleon Lescott, Balotelli and passing players/coaches to corral. Fabregas is a perceptive chap but the rest, not so much, and it adds up to a complete bunfight where it seems hard to get a word in edgeways. Boys will be boys and the tendency for proceedings to descend into a matey-matey banter-fest proved hard to resist on Saturday, and that has been the case for a while.

For instance, this exchange with an emotional Kyle Walker, explaining his life’s journey from Sheffield poverty to today:

Walker: “I remember when mum didn’t have a pound for the ice cream van.”
Ferdinand: “Let’s kick it up a notch, what’s your drink of choice tonight then?”

Lescott [who played more club games for Wolves, and Everton, than he did for City, and used to support Aston Villa] was also deployed in a peculiar role, that of Resident Manchester City Superfan. He was asked time and again by colleagues and commentator Darren Fletcher how his nerves were, how was he holding up etc, as if he were an eight-year-old on a grand day out rather than a highly paid expert.

In the era where Sky Sports has encouraged constant argument between its pundits, the jolly boys outing feel of a BT match hasn’t necessarily been an unwelcome change but a more serious gap in quality had opened up between the UK’s main two pay-TV sports broadcasters.

But as with the Liverpool-Madrid Champions League final in Paris, where a potentially grave news story was unfolding around entry to the ground, BT was in dereliction of duty on Saturday in not dedicating more time to the financial and regulatory context of Man City’s achievement here. Not everyone wanted them to win. While it is true that sometimes you just want to watch the match without Gary Neville yelling at you about food banks, equally BT has far too often presented a Potemkin Village vision of Big Sport; the coverage has been credulous and lacking in rigour. Real “watch the birdie” stuff here, and people clearly don’t buy it.

Humphrey has his qualities but it is fair to say that he is not everyone’s cup of tea, and the same applies to Fletcher. Des Kelly, the former journalist, had a shocker on Saturday, removing the armband he had been given for media accreditation/pitch access and getting Ilkay Gundogan to sign it. Extreme cringe.
We can allow some leeway for an understandable fin de siècle atmosphere, and respect the shock of the recent death of an important BT team member, floor manager Mat Wayne. But there is a sense that some of those on the BT broadcasts had been allowed to form the deeply mistaken impression that it’s about them rather than the sport and the story.

While I wouldn’t go as far as to say that TNT should blow the whole thing up and start again, Saturday night was certainly a cautionary tale of how to deliver a damp squib.
 
Wont be missed by many with their Champions League coverage. The guardian's take.

This was BT Sport’s last curtain call but, sorry to say, the Champions League final coverage was not widely applauded as “high performance”. Its properties now under new ownership, BT Sport’s channels will be replaced by something called TNT from July 18 and details remain sketchy about what sport will be on, who’ll be presenting it, and what it will cost to view. But one thing at least is certain: Jake Humphrey will not be the main host of the football.

Rio Ferdinand gave the presenter a generous farewell at the end of Saturday night and Jake will now spend more time with his High Performance Podcast audio series and his authorship of LinkedIn-tastic books like High Performance: Lessons From The Best On Becoming Your Best.

What lessons, then, might the new broadcaster learn from this weekend’s coverage? In terms of talent, analysis, news coverage, and what you might call an understanding of an event’s broader context, there is a lot to improve.

Firstly, the on-screen mob: hopefully BT kept the receipt for the hire of Mario Balotelli. Handing a new pundit his or her debut is always a gamble but the man who was one of football’s most enjoyable wildcards in his playing prime was a total plank on screen. Maybe nerves were a factor but it was genuinely surprising how subdued he seemed.

This could in part be due to a strategy that BT had embraced throughout its tenure: absolutely crowding the screen with pundits, giving Humphrey and main man Ferdinand a cast of thousands including Cesc Fabregas, Joleon Lescott, Balotelli and passing players/coaches to corral. Fabregas is a perceptive chap but the rest, not so much, and it adds up to a complete bunfight where it seems hard to get a word in edgeways. Boys will be boys and the tendency for proceedings to descend into a matey-matey banter-fest proved hard to resist on Saturday, and that has been the case for a while.

For instance, this exchange with an emotional Kyle Walker, explaining his life’s journey from Sheffield poverty to today:

Walker: “I remember when mum didn’t have a pound for the ice cream van.”
Ferdinand: “Let’s kick it up a notch, what’s your drink of choice tonight then?”

Lescott [who played more club games for Wolves, and Everton, than he did for City, and used to support Aston Villa] was also deployed in a peculiar role, that of Resident Manchester City Superfan. He was asked time and again by colleagues and commentator Darren Fletcher how his nerves were, how was he holding up etc, as if he were an eight-year-old on a grand day out rather than a highly paid expert.

In the era where Sky Sports has encouraged constant argument between its pundits, the jolly boys outing feel of a BT match hasn’t necessarily been an unwelcome change but a more serious gap in quality had opened up between the UK’s main two pay-TV sports broadcasters.

But as with the Liverpool-Madrid Champions League final in Paris, where a potentially grave news story was unfolding around entry to the ground, BT was in dereliction of duty on Saturday in not dedicating more time to the financial and regulatory context of Man City’s achievement here. Not everyone wanted them to win. While it is true that sometimes you just want to watch the match without Gary Neville yelling at you about food banks, equally BT has far too often presented a Potemkin Village vision of Big Sport; the coverage has been credulous and lacking in rigour. Real “watch the birdie” stuff here, and people clearly don’t buy it.

Humphrey has his qualities but it is fair to say that he is not everyone’s cup of tea, and the same applies to Fletcher. Des Kelly, the former journalist, had a shocker on Saturday, removing the armband he had been given for media accreditation/pitch access and getting Ilkay Gundogan to sign it. Extreme cringe.
We can allow some leeway for an understandable fin de siècle atmosphere, and respect the shock of the recent death of an important BT team member, floor manager Mat Wayne. But there is a sense that some of those on the BT broadcasts had been allowed to form the deeply mistaken impression that it’s about them rather than the sport and the story.

While I wouldn’t go as far as to say that TNT should blow the whole thing up and start again, Saturday night was certainly a cautionary tale of how to deliver a damp squib.
However they did provide us with ...

"Thursday nights, are Europa nights" 🎶
 
The Athletic are also uncomplimentary and compare it to the US station's presentation with CBS.

Battle of the Champions League broadcasters: CBS superb but good riddance to BT

Every Champions League night, Brits look across the pond in envy.

Since 2015, football fans in the United Kingdom have had television access to the major European competitions — Champions League, Europa League, and, since its inception in the 2021-22 season, the Europa Conference League — through BT Sport, the UK’s second-largest sport-specific broadcaster behind Sky Sports. And it has been largely underwhelming.

For a moment, think back to the mid-2000s. Think Jose Mourinho’s Chelsea side against Frank Rijkaard’s Barcelona in that strange tan kit. Visualise the picture when Ronaldinho twisted and turned his foot on a pivot before poking that audacious finish past Petr Cech. Do you see the ITV logo in the top left corner, too? Do you hear the Clive Tyldesley commentary?

Thinking about those Champions League nights with Tyldesley’s voice narrating the action brings on a warm, fuzzy feeling that got lost somewhere with BT.

Stateside, CBS has rediscovered that magic. Champions League Today has set the benchmark of European football coverage over the past two seasons, particularly for younger and more casual viewers.

With a leaf taken from the hugely popular Inside the NBA programme on Turner Sports Network, CBS seem to have found the right note to resonate with their audience.

Every week without fail, clips of presenter Kate Abdo and pundits — Thierry Henry, Jamie Carragher and Micah Richards — go viral on social media as they exchange banter with players and pundits, unafraid to make themselves the butt of the joke.

BT’s coverage, however, is more likely to go viral on Twitter with a monotonous compilation of Steve McManaman saying, “That’s right, Fletch”, to his colleague Darren Fletcher, the network’s lead commentator.

However — and though the exact agreements of the deal have not yet been made public — BT has joined forces with Eurosport and next season becomes TNT Sports, signalling the end of their hold over Champions League coverage in the UK since 2015.

So, to mark the conclusion of an indifferent era, The Athletic analysed the coverage of Manchester City’s 1-0 victory in the Champions League final against Inter Milan on BT, CBS, and Qatari-owned beIN SPORTS, to see who performed best.

BT Sport

Alongside lead presenter Jake Humphrey, former Premier League players Rio Ferdinand, Mario Balotelli, Cesc Fabregas and Joleon Lescott were the primary pundits for this five-hour affair — a healthy mix of Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea.

The Italian football representation came in the form of The Athletic’s James Horncastle, who provided greater in-depth coverage alongside former United and Bayern Munich player Owen Hargreaves. This was the only area of BT’s coverage that was superior to its competitors’.

Amidst a lot of boring filler, Ferdinand’s “between the lines” segment with Erling Haaland was a rare highlight. In breaking down his acrobatic winner in the 2-1 win over former club Borussia Dortmund in September, Haaland revealed he watched a lot of City in the Champions League last season and envisioned himself getting on the end of crosses that were previously not profited from because of a lack of a natural No 9. Fifty-two goals later in all competitions, he proved himself right.

Lescott, who joined BT’s primary duo of McManaman and Fletcher in the commentary box for the game itself, was uninspiring.

The most noteworthy line came from Fletcher as the final whistle blew, when he said: “The greatest story in club history has an ending.” While becoming just the second English team to win the treble is an outstanding achievement, the reaction to the statement on Twitter suggested it may have been an over-exaggeration.

CBS

In Abdo, Henry, Carragher and Richards, CBS have found a quartet with natural on-screen chemistry, and the pre-match show (30 minutes shorter than BT’s) was entertaining throughout.

Abdo opened the show with the customary “burn” to Richards, listing Henry and Carragher’s achievements before alluding to “a man who helped launch a football dynasty and is an icon in Manchester,” before skipping over the former City defender and introducing Peter Schmeichel, who crossed the Manchester divide to play for both clubs.

Their best segment was an interview between Henry and City manager Pep Guardiola, where they reflected on how the Spaniard helped Henry perform better in the lead-up to their treble-winning season with Barcelona in 2008-09, as well as the ways Haaland has evolved and how the City team has developed around him to bring out the best in each other this season.

After being replaced by Sam Matterface as ITV’s lead football commentator and recently departing talkSPORT, Tyldesley is CBS’s lead commentator for its Champions League coverage. He was superb and his dynamic with co-commentator Rob Green was another reminder of how much better coverage in the UK was when ITV showed games. The pair let Rodri’s goal breathe rather than flooding the airwaves and they also hit the right notes when the full-time whistle went, unlike BT.

The CBS post-match interviews were similar to those conducted on BT, but due to the personality of the pundits working for the former, they were far more entertaining. Guardiola even admitted he watches clips of the show on Twitter.

beIN Sports

No matter the guests, and they typically have pretty good ones, the beIN Champions League broadcasts always become the Richard Keys and Andy Gray show.

On this occasion, the former Sky Sports duo who host the show were joined by Marcel Desailly, Ruud Gullit and Arsene Wenger. However, the esteemed trio spent most of the evening looking confused as Keys questioned the legitimacy of Guardiola’s status as one of the best coaches in the world.

First, he pointed to last weekend’s FA Cup Final, where City often went long to Haaland from the goalkeeper to play over United’s pressure. “If Leeds scored like that, people would say that it’s basic and agricultural,” he said.

“If I watch Man City do it, it’s clever and good football!” Despite Gullit’s efforts to explain it was an effective deviation from the plan to counter United’s tactics, Keys remained unconvinced.

And when Wenger explained why Guardiola is undoubtedly among the best coaches ever seen, Keys pointed to how he had to change from the “tippy-tappy, tiki-taka” style to beat United.

Sign of a good coach who can make changes on the fly? Not to Keys. He was more interested in Guardiola’s decision to bench Kyle Walker, who, according to the presenter, “had Kylian Mbappe in his pocket in the World Cup”.

Wenger’s best insight came after the final whistle, reflecting on the quality of the City squad built by Guardiola and how it must continue to evolve to extend the club’s period of dominance. Outside of Haaland, he said, there are no “young” players in the first-choice starting line-up.

Considering Liverpool’s poor season and how they are yet to effectively move on from the Fabinho, Jordan Henderson and Georginio Wijnaldum midfield axis that brought such success, it would be fair to agree. However, Keys wasn’t so sure, saying: “At last, (Guardiola) delivered what he was initially employed to do.”

It should be noted, however, that unlike BT and CBS, who ignored the 115 alleged breaches of financial rules committed by City, Keys questioned whether the potential for a guilty verdict tainted their achievement.

Wenger, who now serves as FIFA’s Chief of Global Football Development, instead praised the patience in City’s hierarchy, describing how they have conducted their business as “intelligent, rational and consistent”.

Verdict

While beIN remained entertaining despite Keys’ determination to undermine Guardiola’s stunning career, the best coverage of the final — and indeed the entire competition this season — was CBS.

Their light-hearted but insightful approach has become the gold standard, and a combination of that style and Monday Night Football-level analysis is what TNT — who have a clean slate to improve on BT’s lacklustre efforts — should be aiming to deliver.
 
Wont be missed by many with their Champions League coverage. The guardian's take.

This was BT Sport’s last curtain call but, sorry to say, the Champions League final coverage was not widely applauded as “high performance”. Its properties now under new ownership, BT Sport’s channels will be replaced by something called TNT from July 18 and details remain sketchy about what sport will be on, who’ll be presenting it, and what it will cost to view. But one thing at least is certain: Jake Humphrey will not be the main host of the football.

Rio Ferdinand gave the presenter a generous farewell at the end of Saturday night and Jake will now spend more time with his High Performance Podcast audio series and his authorship of LinkedIn-tastic books like High Performance: Lessons From The Best On Becoming Your Best.

What lessons, then, might the new broadcaster learn from this weekend’s coverage? In terms of talent, analysis, news coverage, and what you might call an understanding of an event’s broader context, there is a lot to improve.

Firstly, the on-screen mob: hopefully BT kept the receipt for the hire of Mario Balotelli. Handing a new pundit his or her debut is always a gamble but the man who was one of football’s most enjoyable wildcards in his playing prime was a total plank on screen. Maybe nerves were a factor but it was genuinely surprising how subdued he seemed.

This could in part be due to a strategy that BT had embraced throughout its tenure: absolutely crowding the screen with pundits, giving Humphrey and main man Ferdinand a cast of thousands including Cesc Fabregas, Joleon Lescott, Balotelli and passing players/coaches to corral. Fabregas is a perceptive chap but the rest, not so much, and it adds up to a complete bunfight where it seems hard to get a word in edgeways. Boys will be boys and the tendency for proceedings to descend into a matey-matey banter-fest proved hard to resist on Saturday, and that has been the case for a while.

For instance, this exchange with an emotional Kyle Walker, explaining his life’s journey from Sheffield poverty to today:

Walker: “I remember when mum didn’t have a pound for the ice cream van.”
Ferdinand: “Let’s kick it up a notch, what’s your drink of choice tonight then?”

Lescott [who played more club games for Wolves, and Everton, than he did for City, and used to support Aston Villa] was also deployed in a peculiar role, that of Resident Manchester City Superfan. He was asked time and again by colleagues and commentator Darren Fletcher how his nerves were, how was he holding up etc, as if he were an eight-year-old on a grand day out rather than a highly paid expert.

In the era where Sky Sports has encouraged constant argument between its pundits, the jolly boys outing feel of a BT match hasn’t necessarily been an unwelcome change but a more serious gap in quality had opened up between the UK’s main two pay-TV sports broadcasters.

But as with the Liverpool-Madrid Champions League final in Paris, where a potentially grave news story was unfolding around entry to the ground, BT was in dereliction of duty on Saturday in not dedicating more time to the financial and regulatory context of Man City’s achievement here. Not everyone wanted them to win. While it is true that sometimes you just want to watch the match without Gary Neville yelling at you about food banks, equally BT has far too often presented a Potemkin Village vision of Big Sport; the coverage has been credulous and lacking in rigour. Real “watch the birdie” stuff here, and people clearly don’t buy it.

Humphrey has his qualities but it is fair to say that he is not everyone’s cup of tea, and the same applies to Fletcher. Des Kelly, the former journalist, had a shocker on Saturday, removing the armband he had been given for media accreditation/pitch access and getting Ilkay Gundogan to sign it. Extreme cringe.
We can allow some leeway for an understandable fin de siècle atmosphere, and respect the shock of the recent death of an important BT team member, floor manager Mat Wayne. But there is a sense that some of those on the BT broadcasts had been allowed to form the deeply mistaken impression that it’s about them rather than the sport and the story.

While I wouldn’t go as far as to say that TNT should blow the whole thing up and start again, Saturday night was certainly a cautionary tale of how to deliver a damp squib.
Definitely needs a revamp. BT is rotten
 
BT Sport is terrible. For all coverage - FA Cup, Premier League, Champions League, Europa League etc.

I actually found myself watching CBS Sports for Champions League coverage this season using my firestick. Their coverage is lightyears ahead of BT Sport. Their panel are much more entertaining, whilst also having much more insight in the sport.

It speaks volumes the fact Jeff has left Soccer Special (creating a huge opportunity for a channel to try grab a chunk of the viewers from Sky) and BT have stopped their 3pm scores.
 
Until they put the important Champions League games back on terrestrial again it won’t get any regular interest from me.

“Big club” fodder that I wouldn’t be àrsed to pay for .

As above remember Ronaldinho’s masterwork v Chelsea. Henry at the Bernabeu. Kaka’s divine assist to Crespo for 3-0 at half time v Liverpool. Dudek in extra time. Even Bale vs Inter Milan.

All better on ITV and more memorable.
 
I've seen alot of positive coverage about CBS coverage lately.
Largely because of the chemistry between the pundits.

It was a strange show on Saturday by BT.
 
I actually thought the whole Lescott lurking in the commentary box was very strange.

He had a few seasons with city so hardly the equivalent of Gerrard at Liverpool etc, and he offered nothing to the commentary apart from mumbling about being nervous 😂
 
Haven't watched much football this season but BT was horrendous on Saturday, not sure why it's become a thing to have people screaming and cheering as teams score. I get that there was a British team playing and people wanted them to win but I've never heard it be so in your face as it has been the last few seasons.

Then to cap it off one of them described it as "the greatest club story in history", the stream got shut down super fast after I heard that nonsense :ROFLMAO:
 
Haven't watched much football this season but BT was horrendous on Saturday, not sure why it's become a thing to have people screaming and cheering as teams score. I get that there was a British team playing and people wanted them to win but I've never heard it be so in your face as it has been the last few seasons.

Then to cap it off one of them described it as "the greatest club story in history", the stream got shut down super fast after I heard that nonsense :ROFLMAO:
It started with local radio and sadly it's crept its way into national broadcasting.

The style is normally celebrated on here.
 
It started with local radio and sadly it's crept its way into national broadcasting.

The style is normally celebrated on here.
I think it's fine if it's a local radio station commentating on a local team. When I have to listen to commentary from other teams on iFollow it usually doesn't bother me at all if they scream when their team scores.
 
I like commentators making a big deal when a team scores, especially when it's a crucial goal or great quality.

The likes of Martin Tyler are dreadful now, where they can barely be bothered to change their tone as a stunning goal goes it.
 
I think it's fine if it's a local radio station commentating on a local team. When I have to listen to commentary from other teams on iFollow it usually doesn't bother me at all if they scream when their team scores.
That's all these commentators are doing, when it comes to national broadcasting the nation is local, and Man City were portrayed as our team.
 
I like commentators making a big deal when a team scores, especially when it's a crucial goal or great quality.
Don't have a problem with this either, it's the cheering and screaming in the background like an actual fan that I find irritating.
 
I try ignore the majority of punditry whether that is BT, Sky, MOTD, etc.
The only real high quality level of punditry is on the Monday Night Football on Sky but even then it can all turn into a bit of a performance to for viral clips.
The commentators that think they have expertise in football like Fletch really do my t*ts in, wish all of them had an option to turn off the commentary and just have the crowd and pitch noises like Amazon have done in the past.
 
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