SNP and Tories walk out of HOC in protest

SNP are right to be furious as their motion should be voted on first

"In an exception to the normal rules of debate, the main motion (the opposition motion) is debated and voted on first, rather than any amendment. This is to allow a decision on the opposition motion to be taken first, before any amendment is put."
 
kuepper said:
SNP are right to be furious as their motion should be voted on first

"In an exception to the normal rules of debate, the main motion (the opposition motion) is debated and voted on first, rather than any amendment. This is to allow a decision on the opposition motion to be taken first, before any amendment is put."
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It’s worse than that it’s specifically contrary to standing orders. The Speaker’s decision to select both amendments, while contrary to convention and the advice of the clerks, was his to make. At most it went against unwritten rules. The deputy’s decision to vote on the Labour amendment first was against the written ones.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
it seems the Speaker was warned of the consequences of accepting two amendments but went ahead and did it anyway. The consequences being that the Tories withdraw their amendment meaning that if the Labour one passes, the SNP's own amendment on their own opposition day will not be debated.

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The SNP didn’t table an amendment it tabled the substantive motion. It was their day.
 
You would hope that elder statespersons from all 4 major parties could get their heads together and come up with a form of words 'generally' suitable to all members of the house.

Then, as it's a non-binding vote, let each MP vote with their own conscience.
 
Let’s be honest the Tories AND the SNP are using the Middle East troubles as a political football to cost Labour votes.

if labour support any statement on Israel’s behaviour they are accused of anti-semitism, if they support Israel’s right to defend then the bots attack them for not caring about the citizens of Gaza.

The bots actually repeatedly attack Labour for both of these while the Tories get away Scot free

The whole thing stinks of the worst kind of politics using dead people in another land to try and manipulate votes
 
Pathetic from them all.

It's all ultimately virtue signalling, whatever parliament's stance is on the conflict, the UK calling for a ceasefire or not calling for one isn't going to impact the conflict.

The SNP are kicking off because they want the credit for a call for a ceasefire, nothing more.

Labour have managed to worm their way in for the same reason.

The Tories are the Tories.

Meanwhile, thousands are dying.
 
TeaCider said:
The SNP are kicking off because they want the credit for a call for a ceasefire, nothing more.
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I think it’s much more than that, the snps stock is low because of corruption. They are in a 2 way fight with Labour in most seats. They wanted to paint Labour as anti-Palestine or anti-Semite, depending on which way Labour MPs voted.
 
It will be brought back again. The pure politics of it all was it would have been of benefit to both the Tories and SNP to watch Labour split. Car crash occurred and now Hoyle will probably get Bercowed.
No elevation for Lindsay.
 
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