Since sacking Southgate

WoodallServices said:
What, like a top drawer manager who had us in second and has taken England to a World Cup semi and European Championship final?
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Second ? We were never second in the premier league under GS. He got us relegated without so much as a whimper - he was not, and never will be a top drawer manager at any club
 
The main reason Southgate did “so well” (despite getting hammered 5-0 at home by West Brom just before his sacking) was that he still had tuncay and Huth for a lot of games which we won and Adam Johnson who was the best player in the league at the time (despite Gary Gill thinking it was O’Neil which was an ominous sign of his future ability identifying talent) and got England call ups not longer after he left us in January.

The same Johnson who would soon be out of contract mainly due to the fact Southgate refused to start him the season before preferring downing who was a waste of space that relegation season compared to Johnson including him having a strop in the January window for not being allowed to leave.

Southgate should have gone a lot sooner but it was not a massive error getting rid of him in the end, who he was replaced with certainly was though!
 
When Gibson became chairman he was young and hungry for success and ambitious he had a budget where he could afford to compete.20 plus years later football has changed for the worse it's very much a money game .He is no longer that hungry ambitious chairman he is now a chairman who is struggling and most of his actions result in bad judgement he's lost his spark.As a fan I'll alway be grateful for the early work but football has changed since then and he can no longer afford to compete with the big boys.
 
Paulh10 said:
The club has made appalling decision after decision.The decision making has been a very poor standard I think Keith lamb was brilliant for Gibson the thought that he had to get outside help in the likes of Kenyon says it all and I really thought Kieran Scott would have improved things but 1 year on no difference same old.we need to stop looking at the manager as every manager has struggled since mcclaren we need to look above that at the owner yes he was great for the first 12 years since then very poor he's finding the club on a shoe string and he's struggling in today's world.Alot of Boro fans are in denial but it's getting borring now and continue on this path on a road to nowhere what's the point need someone with ambition and new ideas.Thankyou for your service Mr Gibson for the time under Robo and Mac and the existence ever since.
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100% agree but it wouldn't be a welcome view on this site.

Gibson saved us many years ago but his decision making is taking us in an alarming direction since offering Southgate the job
 
Paulh10 said:
I really thought Kieran Scott would have improved things but 1 year on no difference same old
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It'll take 3-5 years to really see the difference. His job isn't to identify players, he has a scouting network for that. He will have involvement in collating the scouting info and putting his view forward in the transfer meetings with Gibson, Wilder and Bauser.

He has recognised that the scouting network is light and brought a chief scout in, he will be working on getting some improvement in our youth scouting to get better players into our academy. He'll be working with multiple lower leagues sides, and getting foreign scouts and agents related to the club. It's again a massive job as we all recognised how poor our scouting has been for years.

Paulh10 said:
we need to stop looking at the manager as every manager has struggled since mcclaren
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agreed. Sacking the manager and bringing someone else in rarely works. This manager needs proper backing a proper structure in place. But I think digging at Gibson in this instance isn't right. We have a budget based on FFP. He can't just throw money, we tried to sign two stars for 15m this summer, couldn't quite pull it off, but we didn't waste that money either. The worst thing we can do is splash it on players not worth it. We've travelled that road too, we're still being financially restricted from buying Britt. We have to get the right players or wait.
 
Either put your money in your pocket and buy the club, or go and 'support' another team. I hear there's a team further up north that has been taken over by new owners who are going to pour millions into the club. Just forget about the damage caused by the new owners though eh?
Gibson has been great for My Club and wouldn't want another owner unless they were local, like Gibbo, and truly supported the club, rather than seeing it as an investment.
 
A good example of what happens with foreign owners when the money dries up is Leicester. One point from 7 games. 6 consecutive defeats. Owners saying in the Match Day programme they have no money for transfers.
 
r00fie1 said:
A good example of what happens with foreign owners when the money dries up is Leicester. One point from 7 games. 6 consecutive defeats. Owners saying in the Match Day programme they have no money for transfers.
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And they can't sack Rodgers cos the 10mil payout they would have to make to him would possibly breach FFP. Yep let's sign up to get a foreign owner who doesn't care about the Boro or its fans and wants us as a hobby, vanity project, investment or tax write off. Much better option than Gibbo that - not!
 
bungydinsdale said:
And they can't sack Rodgers cos the 10mil payout they would have to make to him would possibly breach FFP. Yep let's sign up to get a foreign owner who doesn't care about the Boro or its fans and wants us as a hobby, vanity project, investment or tax write off. Much better option than Gibbo that - not!
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That’s quite harsh on the Leicester owners who have actually done a lot for the local community and achieved a lot on the pitch too.

The Premier League is brutal (as we found out) and it just takes one bad transfer window and you’re going to be struggling.
 
Alzi said:
That’s quite harsh on the Leicester owners who have actually done a lot for the local community and achieved a lot on the pitch too.

The Premier League is brutal (as we found out) and it just takes one bad transfer window and you’re going to be struggling.
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Thats true - but the success of the club depends on the success of the owners business. As the Chairman of Leicester expounded in the LCFC Programme of 1st September 2022, before the Man Utd game:

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The Chairman's Programme Notes

Leicester City Chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha pens his programme notes ahead of Thursday's fixture against Manchester United...
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Leicester City Chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha pens his programme notes ahead of Thursday's fixture against Manchester United...

Good evening, everyone. Welcome back to King Power Stadium and welcome to our guests from Manchester United for what should be another exciting night of Premier League football.

With a challenging transfer window drawing to a close, I think it’s important for our fans that we address some of the questions our supporters have been asking in recent weeks. It’s been a challenging period for the Club, in which demonstrating our commitment to long-term sustainability has become a necessary priority.
First and foremost, Leicester City’s overall financial position is entirely secure and underpinned by my ongoing personal commitment and that of my family. The Club is as safe in our hands as it has been every day for the last 12 years. It’s our commitment to that responsibility that drives every decision we make.

Sometimes, that commitment means making difficult, short-term decisions that protect the Club’s long-term interests, such as our approach to this summer’s transfer window. Due to an increase in our net spend over recent seasons, some measures were necessary to ensure we manage our compliance with the game’s sustainability regulations. While we continue to build our wider revenue streams to compete with the established elite in the long-term, our short-term means of offsetting such expenditure is generating profits through player trading. We did that successfully for five straight summer windows before 2021, where we opted to make further investments in the squad without a significant sale. This summer, we couldn’t risk unbalancing that equation further, so we decided space would need to be made in the squad before new additions could be brought in.

Building the Club to a level where we are less reliant on player trading takes good management; strategic, sustainable investment; success on the pitch; and time. The visible growth of our commercial revenue streams demonstrates that we are moving in the right direction, but the impact of the pandemic has been undeniable. When we first announced our intention to expand King Power Stadium and develop the surrounding site – a project central to our long-term growth – we would have anticipated such work being well underway by this stage. We are 100 per cent committed to the project and indeed hope to have positive news from the local authorities relative to planning permission imminently, but the project’s delay has unquestionably been among the many consequences of the unprecedented global events of recent years.

The message I hope our supporters take from this is that the long-term future of your Club comes before everything. Our consistent commitment to you throughout the last 12 years has been to build your Club up for long-term, sustainable success. In this context, sustainable is the key word. One thing that will always remain constant is our commitment to Leicester City’s long-term growth and security.

The love my family and I have for Leicester City and the experiences that have bound us all together means we simply will not risk setting it down a path we don’t feel is responsible and in Leicester City’s best interests.

With the window closing tonight, bringing greater certainty for Brendan, his staff and players, we all have an opportunity to restart our season and get back to a position Leicester City knows best – on the front foot and ready to fight together against all in our path. I’ve seen what can be achieved in this stadium when our Club – players, staff and supporters – are connected and fighting for our cause. It’s a powerful combination. I hope we can all reconnect with it tonight and take it into the rest of the season.

Thank you for your continued support.
Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha
Chairman
 
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