Simple VAR vote to gauge opinion

What would you like to see happen with VAR?

  • It is ruining football. Burn it, put the ashes in a rocket and fire them into deep space forevermore

    Votes: 90 73.8%

  • I like it. It’s improved the game and my enjoyment of the match. Keep it.

    Votes: 19 15.6%

  • Not fussed either way. Couldn’t care less if it stays or goes.

    Votes: 16 13.1%
  • Total voters
    122
One thing about this weekend is that my recollection is that all the controversies were in relation to upheld on field decisions. The penalty in the Wolves game, the decision to allow the Newcastle goal, the two yellow cards that could’ve been red in that game. In all those cases, VAR made no difference at all. People do get remarkably worked up about something that made no difference.
 
Scrote said:
Yes. It's black and white. But no one was complaining about marginal decisions pre-VAR. It was the glaringly obvious ones.

Using VAR at the micrometre scale is what causes the problems with delays etc. And like yesterday, despite all the technology they "couldn't find a TV angle to draw a line", That brings the whole offside lines technology into question as it's all supposed to be fully calibrated across the pitch.

Strange that you miss out Liverpool..?
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I think we should just agree to differ.
 
Subbuteo_171 said:
VAR is getting more things right, the problem is when there is a decision to be made you are still going to have one happy team and one unhappy team. Pre VAR this was the case, getting rid or keeping it won’t change that.
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Take the example of Newcastle's goal. If that was given by the officials on the field (no VAR) we would have had the discussion and Arsenal would have whinged about it. May or may not have gone out, fair enough. Not sure how Joelinton pushing down on the defender is NOT a foul nor how Gordon isn't offside? Goal would have stood in the Championship, if it was against us I would be annoyed but that's football. VAR made it worse.

In the same game Guimaraes whacks Havertz on the back of the head as he runs past him probably in retaliation for Havertz lunge at Longstaff earlier, no review yet Shirley a clear and obvious error/omission by the on-field officials?

It is a mess.
 
All the arguments about improving decision-making are really meaningless when it ruins the game as a spectacle for the fans who actually go to the game, as opposed to watching on TV. It's one thing checking for the lino's flag as you leap up to celebrate a goal, quite another to hang around for 5 minutes while someone in a bunker draws lines on a screen.
 
They should move to the automated system that they used in the World Cup. No idea why you would want the human element in there when it is the human that causes the errors.

And…

People will moan about decisions in football regardless of VAR. Even if a decision is the right one there will be people saying it’s the wrong one. One of the best things about football is the post match debates on decisions.
 
I'd have been doubly annoyed if we'd had VAR yesterday and they'd still not decided on a red card for the Plymouth player, which I can believe would happen, despite it being a stonewall red card.
 
VAR isn’t ruining the game for me.
Money, ownership and cheating footballers are all way ahead in that regard.

Football is an emotional game with a fair amount of subjectivity.

Referees, and VAR refs will get decisions wrong.
It’s only managers and fans who get the decisions right.
 
It's good in principle, but it's being implemented wrongly for me
The penalty against Uruguay in the last World Cup after VAR was one of the most ridiculous decisions I've ever seen
 
NYboro said:
All the arguments about improving decision-making are really meaningless when it ruins the game as a spectacle for the fans who actually go to the game, as opposed to watching on TV. It's one thing checking for the lino's flag as you leap up to celebrate a goal, quite another to hang around for 5 minutes while someone in a bunker draws lines on a screen.
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Thing is, it ruins the spectacle even if you are just watching on tv.
The money men will probably start finding a way to put ads on the screen while VAR decisions are made soon. Urrggh.
 
ThePrisoner said:
How many VAR games, if any, has Boro taken part in?
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League Cup quarter final against Burton in 2018, we lost 1-0 with no controversies.

FA Cup third round replay against Tottenham in 2020, we lost 2-1 with no controversies.

FA Cup fourth round against Manchester United in 2022, we won on penalties after VAR correctly allowed Crooks' equaliser and it ended 1-1.

FA Cup quarter final against Chelsea in 2022, we lost 2-0 with no controversies.

Twice at home, twice away.

I think that's it.
 
May be get rid of VAR but also restrict TV coverage to 4 cameras that don’t cover every angle other than the one from the players ass..

It was the over analysis of the footage that caused managers to kick off over poor decisions..

Back in the day there was hardly any controversy (ignoring Germany’s complaints in 66 obv 😉)
 
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Ok, so at this moment -

76 dislikes

16 likes

13 don‘t cares


I think that tells a very clear story about what us fans think.
Whether it would be replicated around the country who knows?
 
I’d just like to see it used once per game for each side. However, it seems to me that the league might even be considering to phase it out as it’s doesn’t seem to used as much as it was from last season— anyone confirm this?
 
Expat Smoggie said:
I’d just like to see it used once per game for each side. However, it seems to me that the league might even be considering to phase it out as it’s doesn’t seem to used as much as it was from last season— anyone confirm this?
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It’s still used for all the decisions it was always used for, checking goals, penalties and red cards, but they seem to have made the threshold to intervene higher which has two effects. First, you notice it less. Second, pretty much every controversy is now over a failure to reverse a decision.
 
Anymore for anymore?

Or is this to be the ‘final score’ for VAR opinions on the board

- AGAINST 81 (75% of respondents)
- FOR 16 (14.8%)
- don’t care 14 (13%)

* I know the percentages don’t add up to 100 but I’m guessing that’s something to do with people changing their vote?

Pretty conclusive, at least on this forum, that it ain’t working for the overwhelming majority of us.
 
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