Reports of Derby going into liquidation

Sportswashing is an integral part of modern global capitalism. It's money laundering on a massive scale, which the government are turning a blind eye to.

The government probably hate upstarts from the lower tiers upsetting their applecart.

How can we expect the owner/ director eligibility tests to count for anything when the country is being run on disregard for proper rules and regulations at the very top.
 
Subbuteo_171 said:
Think we are saying the same thing in different ways. FFP has to be applied rigorously and consistently otherwise it simply doesn’t work. The EFL signed off Derby‘s accounts, so the people making the rules couldn’t even apply them.
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I think Derby's accounts were signed off due to the available information. It was only when more information became available that they were caught.

There's certainly an argument that the governance isn't rigorous enough because they under=estimated that there are some absolute rogues involved
 
Caesium137 said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Kirchner withdraws bid to buy Derby

US businessman Chris Kirchner withdraws his bid to buy Championship club Derby County.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

One yankee-doodle buyer pulls out...................
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The situation at Derby was not a one-off falling foul of FFP - it was long term, systematic and quite deliberate spearheaded by Mel Morris. We have to make sure that no club can do that again. The EFL hierarchy has been completely cleared and replaced since and we now have to ensure that the fan-led football review calls for an independent regulator are pushed through.
Sadly for Derby fans their club has been absolutely devastated by Mel Morris. They probably need to be realistic about exactly how deep-rooted that deception went and then to work with Middlesbrough and Wycombe to look at a way forward that is right for them but also right for football and the opponents that Mel and his team deliberately wronged.
 
Assuming Newcastle get relegated which is not unlikely based on form how will they spend their multi millions whilst staying within FFP rules?
 
FatCat said:
Assuming Newcastle get relegated which is not unlikely based on form how will they spend their multi millions whilst staying within FFP rules?
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They wont they'll just do what Villa, Bournemouth and QPR have done, hoping that they go up, which with that wad they will .....if in the unlikely event that they came back down the subsequent fine as in both QPR and Bournemouth's cases would be loose change to Staveley and Co.
 
FatCat said:
Assuming Newcastle get relegated which is not unlikely based on form how will they spend their multi millions whilst staying within FFP rules?
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FFP works on a 3 year rolling basis, so - given profits in the last few years, and the prospect of profits in the future, Newcastle ought to be able to splurge a fair amount in order to be promoted out of the Championship..
 
Can any one name a club that could potentially spend £300m in January and still get relegated and then fail to get promoted the following year ? 😉
 
fmttmadmin said:
we hope that we might see parachute payments ending
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Wouldn't they have to give a season or two's notice? I imagine some clubs may have emergency planning or player contracts that rely on parachute payments. Take away parachute payments without notice and they could end up in administration unable to pay player contracts.

Also, is there a limit on what you can gift a club? I know there are strict limits on the amounts they can borrow - which is how they're usually financed.
 
br14 said:
Wouldn't they have to give a season or two's notice? I imagine some clubs may have emergency planning or player contracts that rely on parachute payments. Take away parachute payments without notice and they could end up in administration unable to pay player contracts.

Also, is there a limit on what you can gift a club? I know there are strict limits on the amounts they can borrow - which is how they're usually financed.
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I know it's a recent popular conception to bail out failing private enterprise but I'm not sure it's always the right way forward. It's time the chancers were allowed to fail, particularly in the non essential sector.
 
I think the EFL should amend their rules so that if you fail the FFP tests and get promoted to the Premier League and avoid punishment then relegation from the Premier League should be relegation to League 2 or worse.
I get that people have very little sympathy for Derby FC and a lot of sympathy for their fans, but the rules should be black and white and not allow people to cheat FFP gain an advantage and then suffer a very minor punishment some years later.
 
FatCat said:
Assuming Newcastle get relegated which is not unlikely based on form how will they spend their multi millions whilst staying within FFP rules?
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They'll struggle, bu they'll probably just spend 250mill knowing that at the end of the season they'll be in trouble, but expecting they'll have been promoted anyway so will be free from any EFL punishment
 
BoroMart said:
They'll struggle, bu they'll probably just spend 250mill knowing that at the end of the season they'll be in trouble, but expecting they'll have been promoted anyway so will be free from any EFL punishment
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I think I might have mentioned this previously on here but until the PL works with the EFL on FFP it will continue to be flouted by teams gambling to get to the big trough.

Punishment for flouting this rule needs to be handed out by the PL as well as the EFL.
 
RedAsABeetroot said:
I think the EFL should amend their rules so that if you fail the FFP tests and get promoted to the Premier League and avoid punishment then relegation from the Premier League should be relegation to League 2 or worse.
I get that people have very little sympathy for Derby FC and a lot of sympathy for their fans, but the rules should be black and white and not allow people to cheat FFP gain an advantage and then suffer a very minor punishment some years later.
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I know that Derby are not in a good way but be careful about knee jerk rule changes. Clubs that get promoted have nearly always 'broken' fair play rules, but a lot of these only broke fair play because they got promoted. Sounds daft but because of promotion they had to include all of the players promotion bonus payouts in their results for that season. Fairly sure that Boro would have fallen into this group if we had gone up in last few years
 
Giving Bournmouth a parachute payment is an insult to the EFL teams who didn't gamble with FFP like they did.

They bought their way into the EPL like Villa, but absolutely no sanctions from the EFL on their return.
 
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Norman_Conquest said:
I think I might have mentioned this previously on here but until the PL works with the EFL on FFP it will continue to be flouted by teams gambling to get to the big trough.

Punishment for flouting this rule needs to be handed out by the PL as well as the EFL.
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The premier league is owned by the clubs in that league, there is no motivation for them to vote on something that will self harm a number of their members
 
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