Rejoining Horizon. Rejoice, rejoice!

[speckyget]

Just seen a Tory MP spinning our rejoining the European science funding scheme as a good news story and a huge win for the government. Isn't that a bit like claiming credit for fixing someone's window when you were the one who put the brick through it?

 

[Lefty]

Tiny steps reversing the stupidity, but welcome.

 

[ThePrisoner]

Back in Horizon.
CA mark gone.

What next? Erasmus? Customs Union?

We are returning to the EU by osmosis.

 

[Colgates_shaving_foam]

Arsonist returning to the scene as a firefighter isn't it but good news all the same.

This is probably how we will rejoin the EU, in thousands of agreements and treaties over many many years.

 

[Lefty]

Just seen a Tory MP spinning our rejoining the European science funding scheme as a good news story and a huge win for the government. Isn't that a bit like claiming credit for fixing someone's window when you were the one who put the brick through it?

And Granny died from the draft while you took more than three and a half years to decide if having a broken window was actually a good idea or not.

 

[speckyget]

Wish I shared you gents' optimism. We still seem determined to elect governments whose policy is to maintain these self imposed economic sanctions.

 

[Wiseman_Vaughn]

this is probably how we will rejoin the EU, in thousands of agreements and treaties over many many years.

Do you mean rather than via democracy?

 

[Colgates_shaving_foam]

Do you mean rather than via democracy?

The agreement and treaties will be made by democratically elected representatives, well, as much as they can be in the FPTP system.

Long term it might even be better as it will not be able to be severed if there is no over-arching agreement holding it in place.

 

[speckyget]

Do you mean rather than via democracy?

Interesting conversation to be had as to whether selling a disaster based on a patently false prospectus constitutes democracy.

 

[Colin Warnek]

Interesting conversation to be had as to whether selling a disaster based on a patently false prospectus constitutes democracy.

Interesting? It’s only been done to death.

 

[ForssAwakens]

Just seen a Tory MP spinning our rejoining the European science funding scheme as a good news story and a huge win for the government. Isn't that a bit like claiming credit for fixing someone's window when you were the one who put the brick through it?

Is it more like me cancelling the Netflix subscription and telling the house to rejoice when I’ve allowed us to have it again

 

[Scrote]

Do you mean rather than via democracy?

The referendum was arguably the least democratic decision the country has ever made.

Large chunks of the population (the 'demos') were disenfranchised with the excuse being that the referendum was just advisory.

If the demos isn't able to vote then the kratos isn't worth the paper it's written on.

 

[speckyget]

Interesting? It’s only been done to death.

Funnily enough that's exactly what the Tory MP said. Move on, nothing to see here.

 

[Nero]

The Tories are starting to realise how ****ed up their Brexit is. They’ve gone from total British exceptionalism, to a clarity that it isn’t the 1800’s and Britain doesn’t have an Empire.

It also shows yet again how much of a c*nt Alexander Boris Johnson is. The man will lie about anything to get what he wants.

 

[TeessideCleveland]

Funnily enough that's exactly what the Tory MP said. Move on, nothing to see here.

That's what Tory MPs always say

 

[Wiseman_Vaughn]

Interesting conversation to be had as to whether selling a disaster based on a patently false prospectus constitutes democracy.

You are right of course but you know how this would play out in the long run. i t is obvious that it hasn't worked out the way it was promised I think it would be reasonable to have a new vote

 

[Corco65]

Back in Horizon.
CA mark gone.

What next? Erasmus? Customs Union?

We are returning to the EU by osmosis.

And all the separate arrnagement fee's for each part will probably cost more then what our Euro membership cost and we won't have any direct influence, then again at least we got our country and blue passports back.

 

[1finny]

Back in Horizon.
CA mark gone.

What next? Erasmus? Customs Union?

We are returning to the EU by osmosis.

And Sunak refusing to rule out further collaboration with the EU

 

[Unravel_Morrison]

Is it more like me cancelling the Netflix subscription and telling the house to rejoice when I’ve allowed us to have it again

Its more like cancelling your full Sky subscription and then waiting for 2 years to get Now TV at a higher cost.

 

[BiggEggo]

I think the majority of UK politicians (all parties) recognise that leaving was a backward step and an act of self harm.

They still recognise however, that there is a significant portion of mainly older voter's that are still drinking Farage & Johnson's Old Empire Brexit Coolade.

Hence the reluctance to publicly acknowledge and reverse the total f up.