Red Faction - walking out on 30th minute

Nano said:
I have absolutely no confidence that they do and I think this is the biggest problem. Their modelling for tickets, shirt sales etc are always way off.

I think their models are ultra basic.
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they are clearly risk averse in their modelling.
 
BoroMart said:
Great point their needs to be an objective, I’ve got no idea from the pages of these threads what the objectives are, just seems one big pity party and chance to complain
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There are many reasons why particular groups of fans are unhappy with aspects of the club.
They will not all agree on everything, nor do they have to.
The fact is there is significant discontent.

So quite obviously the objective of a protest would be simply to highlight in an obvious way to Gibson that heneeds to properly listen to and communicate with the crowd.
To sit aloof and disengaged when so many are concerned/frustrated/angry is a very strange option to choose.
 
indeedido said:
There are many reasons why particular groups of fans are unhappy with aspects of the club.
They will not all agree on everything, nor do they have to.
The fact is there is significant discontent.

So quite obviously the objective of a protest would be simply to highlight in an obvious way to Gibson that heneeds to properly listen to and communicate with the crowd.
To sit aloof and disengaged when so many are concerned/frustrated/angry is a very strange option to choose.
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He's always been aloof and its too late to change that.

There is of course discontent, it's been a decade of largely crap on the field, to show discontent when we actually see shoots of recovery under Carrick seems mad to me. It's mackem-esque in its self harm
 
BoroMart said:
He's always been aloof and its too late to change that.

There is of course discontent, it's been a decade of largely crap on the field, to show discontent when we actually see shoots of recovery under Carrick seems mad to me. It's mackem-esque in its self harm
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Blame Gibbo and the club for that.

Last year they took the **** on the fans good will and feel good of the club, they've truly shot themselves in the foot this time.
 
Not checked the whole thread but when is this meeting meant/going to be held. Will in be before or after Saturday and if after Saturday will the Boss ask them not to walk out at which point he has until the next home game on the 6th March to quell the demonstration.
 
Norfolkred1 said:
Not checked the whole thread but when is this meeting meant/going to be held. Will in be before or after Saturday and if after Saturday will the Boss ask them not to walk out at which point he has until the next home game on the 6th March to quell the demonstration.
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I think it shows how desperate gibson is not to lose face and have a demonstration at the ground. I dont believe a meeting with the chairman will change much a token gesture maybe but no meaningful change. To me the issue is not adult prices but walkups the earlybird markup and youth ticket prices, i just cant see a policy shift on those
 
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BoroMart said:
Blame culture solves nothing
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You've literally just blamed the fans for 'mackem-esque' self-harm.

If you're just genuinely on this thread as a wind up, please just stop.

This football club genuinely means so much to all of us and all fans. Some can afford the price increase, some can't. Elements of both are involved in protesting against this decision.

If you disagree with the decision to protest, thats fine, but I've seen nothing from yourself in terms of a valid way to show discontent.

If you're just trying to give a different view, please stop. Nobody is interested in it, you're just winding people up now, because you've just randomly thrown bits about that ultimately contradict yourself over and over.

I'm done replying to you.
 
free_pint said:
You've literally just blamed the fans for 'mackem-esque' self-harm.

If you're just genuinely on this thread as a wind up, please just stop.

This football club genuinely means so much to all of us and all fans. Some can afford the price increase, some can't. Elements of both are involved in protesting against this decision.

If you disagree with the decision to protest, thats fine, but I've seen nothing from yourself in terms of a valid way to show discontent.

If you're just trying to give a different view, please stop. Nobody is interested in it, you're just winding people up now, because you've just randomly thrown bits about that ultimately contradict yourself over and over.

I'm done replying to you.
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He'll never back down or change his view point. Once he's on one side of a debate there's absolutely zero room for debate, he just digs his feet in deeper.
 
B_G said:
Will raising the prices bring extra money in though Rob? Last season people let the price rise go because the football was exciting and there was a general feeling that we would be pushing for promotion. There was a big increase in sales.

This season should have been about retaining as many of those fans as possible. History tells us that attendances are linked to performances on the pitch and this season we have regressed. With the price increase I think we will see attendances drop a reasonable amount. If they drop by more than 1.5k then the revenue has decreased irrelevant of the price increase.

We won't know until the ST figures are released.
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This is it for me. It doesn't seem to make sense on a financial basis anyway. This season has been disappointing in the league, results-wise at least. We can't assume that ST holders will keep increasing even if prices stay the same. I reckon a freeze accompanied by a real message of intent to go for promotion next season would have been a much better (and effective financially and not) message.
 
We have the sixth-highest average attendance in the league with the highest ticket prices.
Yet we are told even more should come out of the fans pockets :unsure:

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When I had my ST 1990-2002 I bought it -

1. Because I attended every home game anyway - got the equivalent of 2? 3? free games.
2. It gave me priority for away tickets/cup games.
3. That's it.

Not sure when and how this kind of uber fan mentality has crept in, wanting to keep prices high for the plebs (newcomers and walk ups) yet as low as possible for them. Read someone make the statement that walk up prices are absolutely fine, but if their ST was increased to circa £30 game they'd think long and hard about renewing.......🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

And what I don't get......why are there no deals for adults/kids? Why do Boro prefer to have thousands of empty seats rather than fill them with ticket deals? Are they that scared of the Uber ST holder backlash? Will any ST openly admit on here their p*ss will be boiling if someone sat in the next two seats to them paying £5 ticket more (or a kid for £10-12 only)?

Is it indeed time for the entire pricing structure to be looked at top to bottom??

Btw this isn't a dig at ST holders, and you do deserve discounts etc for putting the money up every season.
 
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