Red Faction - Ticket Price Statement

Pretty shocked at some of the comments, straight from the "Lee Anderson Book of Inspirational Quotes (forward by Simon Clarke)".
Zero empathy and a proper FU to real supporters who can't afford a ST or even walk up prices.

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you talk like going to the football is a god given right or an essential expense in a household, it isn’t. You have my sympathies and empathy you really do but to say some of the comments are straight from 30p Lee isn’t true at all. MFC is a business at the end of the day.
 
It's an easy one this. Just say no. If you want to watch home and away get a firestick. Better still, watch other local clubs, plenty in Teesside, you'll have football on tap for a fraction of the price.
 
We already pay more than the vast majority of championship clubs despite being in the poorest area of the country. Just how much more will our fans be pushed before they have to walk away?
Cardiff last week was £19 for an adult, £10 for U21, and £8 for U16. Seemed very reasonable.

As others have said, player wages and agents fees need to come down massively; to sustainable levels. (In fact somehow* getting rid of leaching agents altogether would be good).
 
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you talk like going to the football is a god given right or an essential expense in a household, it isn’t. You have my sympathies and empathy you really do but to say some of the comments are straight from 30p Lee isn’t true at all. MFC is a business at the end of the day.
No my point is genuine working class fans are being priced out of seeing the club they love, their club, the club they have followed through good and bad times for years.

Your "god given right or essential expense" is no different to the Tory quote of "want a house, cut out Starbucks or Netflix". Which I found hugely crass and insensitive.

You can afford it, good for you, better to follow Boro than p*ss it all up the wall.
 
Some really pathetic comments on here from some ST holders who don't give monkeys for casual supporters. They don't seem to realise everyone has been a casual supporter at one time or other, absolutely no empathy at all.

I applaud the red faction for coming out and taking the club to task on ticket prices and possible rises at Boro. No other fan group or fan representatives have the balls to criticise the club on the matter. These fans reps will campaign for 20 is plenty for away games but perversely seem to think scalping home fans is somehow acceptable.
This is the stock response on this board whenever there is a debate about ticket prices and some people try to be pragmatic. I am not defending the club btw, I’m just explaining that football is about generating revenue and if you can’t at least come to terms with that, you’ll never fully enjoy professional sport.

There is not a solution that means all of society can attend, I wish there was, but it’s just not realistic. Certainly not in a world where we keep electing Right wing/capitalist leaders.
 
No my point is genuine working class fans are being priced out of seeing the club they love, their club, the club they have followed through good and bad times for years.

Your "god given right or essential expense" is no different to the Tory quote of "want a house, cut out Starbucks or Netflix". Which I found hugely crass and insensitive.

You can afford it, good for you, better to follow Boro than p*ss it all up the wall.
The fans haven’t been priced out, look how many turn up week in week out, most away days sold out. The club needs to maximise its revenue.
 
No my point is genuine working class fans are being priced out of seeing the club they love, their club, the club they have followed through good and bad times for years.

Your "god given right or essential expense" is no different to the Tory quote of "want a house, cut out Starbucks or Netflix". Which I found hugely crass and insensitive.

You can afford it, good for you, better to follow Boro than p*ss it all up the wall.
This debate has been raging for decades. There will always be a section of society who are priced out. It’s sad, but it’s just the way the world works. People were saying exactly as you’ve written in the 90s, but most people still afford to go, or make sacrifices so that they can. Attendances are broadly similar to the early Robson years.

Btw, it’s not the club’s fault that you live 120 miles away from the ground mate and you have significant travel costs to get there (as do I). In truth I can’t really afford to do 23 home games per season, even though I have a season ticket. It’s financially and time expensive, but I just have to deal with it, the world doesn’t stop turning. These days I’m lucky if I get to 12-14 games a season, but season ticket is still worth it imo.

In reality, the people who are “priced out” still go, they just don’t go as often. Some will get IPTV Firesticks etc and fair play to them. In the past if you didn’t go you couldn’t watch the match at all.
 
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Yes. Or are you a Boro fan only when the situation suits?

Season tickets don't need to be the same as walk-ups but the gap shouldn't be so big. Walk ups pay 50% more per game. That's massive.
No, we’re all Boro fans all of the time. I went for years without a ST and paid higher price.
I’d agree the gap in price shouldn’t be as big but there should be incentive for buying in advance.
That said, I have said before that I wouldn’t actually bother me if all tickets were same price. I’d still get a ST for the convenience.

I don’t earn a fortune and use a lot of leave to get Saturdays off. It’s personal choice to go to games. I know that it’s overpriced and out of the reach of some, the same way I can’t have a Porsche and drive a 18 year old car. I have to live with that
 
I think we’re generally at about 80% capacity at the riverside these days, so the pricing structure works.


I remember the dark days under Strachan and co with regular 16,000 attendances and much cheaper prices. I couldn’t give my season ticket away when I went on holiday.

We now get around 25,000 every match, so I think the issue is generally the product not the price.

It’s amazing how many “working class fans” can suddenly afford a football match when we get to a final or had a uefa cup run
My son has to work some Saturdays and for the Blackburn game I couldn't give his SC away,I even stood outside the ticket office for ten minutes, he's not there tomorrow and I had no problem moving it on .
 
Cardiff last week was £19 for an adult, £10 for U21, and £8 for U16. Seemed very reasonable.

As others have said, player wages and agents fees need to come down massively; to sustainable levels. (In fact somehow* getting rid of leaching agents altogether would be good).
Was the ground packed ?
 
The dinosaur chairman strikes again

I mean we had some of the most expensive season ticket prices in the premier league when promoted . Some of the most expensive in the championship too .

Large portion of the time the ground looks empty . We’ve hardly competed for promotion for ages and we have a massive debt to Gibson which he incurred himself .

But yeah , we’re lucky to have him and we’re a well run club apparently .
Not sure how long it’s been since you’ve been to a game, but the riverside hasn’t had the looking empty problem for quite a lot of years now. Have a look at the season review of the strachen season on YouTube if you want to see a comparison.

In terms of Gibson - I’d love to know what you’d do differently while making sure the club stays competitive. I don’t think he’s got it all right by any stretch, but I don’t think anyone can accuse him of not putting in his fair share.
 
Some really pathetic comments on here from some ST holders who don't give monkeys for casual supporters. They don't seem to realise everyone has been a casual supporter at one time or other, absolutely no empathy at all.

I applaud the red faction for coming out and taking the club to task on ticket prices and possible rises at Boro. No other fan group or fan representatives have the balls to criticise the club on the matter. These fans reps will campaign for 20 is plenty for away games but perversely seem to think scalping home fans is somehow acceptable.
It depends on the view point doesn’t it. I’m not a season ticket holder. The club will have increased energy costs over the last year. Are they expected not to pass any of that on?

It’s costs more to put the game on, there we can conclude it’ll cost more to watch
 
This debate has been raging for decades. There will always be a section of society who are priced out. It’s sad, but it’s just the way the world works. People were saying exactly as you’ve written in the 90s, but most people still afford to go, or make sacrifices so that they can. Attendances are broadly similar to the early Robson years.

Btw, it’s not the club’s fault that you live 120 miles away from the ground mate and you have significant travel costs to get there (as do I). In truth I can’t really afford to do 23 home games per season, even though I have a season ticket. It’s financially and time expensive, but I just have to deal with it, the world doesn’t stop turning. These days I’m lucky if I get to 12-14 games a season, but season ticket is still worth it imo.

In reality, the people who are “priced out” still go, they just don’t go as often. Some will get IPTV Firesticks etc and fair play to them. In the past if you didn’t go you couldn’t watch the match at all.
No, I'm not talking about my own personal circumstances. I chose to move away, gave my ST up in 2003, and an extra £10 or whatever for tickets - in the scheme of things - won't be a massive issue.

But there a plenty of people out there who are local, a lot worse off than me who simply can't afford to go.....so increasing prices is not really an incentive to get these people to fill the ground is it?

And yes, this debate has raged for years and agree there is no easy answer - cheap tickets v maximising revenue 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Red Faction - whoever they are don’t speak for the club's fans’. They are a self appointed self regulated self serving group with a drum. I will await the club’s statement to its entire fan base before making comment. Getting a bit sick of RF flexing their muscles.
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No, I'm not talking about my own personal circumstances. I chose to move away, gave my ST up in 2003, and an extra £10 or whatever for tickets - in the scheme of things - won't be a massive issue.

But there a plenty of people out there who are local, a lot worse off than me who simply can't afford to go.....so increasing prices is not really an incentive to get these people to fill the ground is it?

And yes, this debate has raged for years and agree there is no easy answer - cheap tickets v maximising revenue 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
There are, and it is sad. Maybe eventually the working classes will wake up and stop voting for governments who want to screw them over. Maybe then “key workers” will be paid fair salaries etc and can afford to go to football and not eat in food banks etc. I see this as a societal issue not just about football and certainly not just about MFC. MFC are just a football club behaving like a football club, a business behaving like a business.

£22 I paid to watch Stockport the other night, they were non league 9 months ago!
 
The fans haven’t been priced out, look how many turn up week in week out, most away days sold out. The club needs to maximise its revenue.
But there are 5-6k empty seats, so how does the club maximise revenue by hiking pricing and making fans who can't afford a ST pay a massive amount more than those who can?

Simple economic model, pitch your product at the right price at the right people and your sales will do well. Currently there is approximately 23% of the product not getting sold.....so what would business do, blindly continue down the same path or look at how the sales pitch could be done differently thus potentially improving profits?

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There are, and it is sad. Maybe eventually the working classes will wake up and stop voting for governments who want to screw them over. Maybe then “key workers” will be paid fair salaries etc and can afford to go to football and not eat in food banks etc. I see this as a societal issue not just about football and certainly not just about MFC. MFC are just a football club behaving like a football club, a business behaving like a business.

£22 I paid to watch Stockport the other night, they were non league 9 months ago!
£20 last season......£5 for kids!!
 
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