Race red flagged

Spraggons Den said:
If you don't enjoy F1 then may I suggest you don't watch it anymore. Personally I think today's race will go down as a classic. Although I do wish Alex had done better but will happily take 8th for the Williams.
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Sadly its the weather that created the jeopardy and that’s a shame.
 
Jedi boro said:
Rolling start ffs

What’s the point.
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Anything to favour crashtappen - golden boy who needs to win everything and every time.

Entertaining race purely because of the weather but the same old predictable result.

Speaks volumes when Max can under cut Perez by going on the intera first and get first call on tyres when Perez was in the lead
 
Thornaby90 said:
Anything to favour crashtappen - golden boy who needs to win everything and every time.

Entertaining race purely because of the weather but the same old predictable result.

Speaks volumes when Max can under cut Perez by going on the intera first and get first call on tyres when Perez was in the lead
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Max was 4 seconds quicker on one of the first laps on the inters, yes he got the better strategy call but he was winning regardless of any strategy today
 
JM14 said:
Max was 4 seconds quicker on one of the first laps on the inters, yes he got the better strategy call but he was winning regardless of any strategy today
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Thats fair enough but my point is usually the lead car gets the call to come in first and at that point Perez was in the lead but as per usual Max got to come in first put the softs on and under cut Perez, anything that favours him he gets it
 
Thornaby90 said:
Anything to favour crashtappen - golden boy who needs to win everything and every time.

Entertaining race purely because of the weather but the same old predictable result.

Speaks volumes when Max can under cut Perez by going on the intera first and get first call on tyres when Perez was in the lead
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That’s rubbish this obsession with rolling starts has been around long before max came along.
 
Thornaby90 said:
Thats fair enough but my point is usually the lead car gets the call to come in first and at that point Perez was in the lead but as per usual Max got to come in first put the softs on and under cut Perez, anything that favours him he gets it
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It was a strange one because they had time to put both on the same lap, but Perez has done nothing at all to deserve any preference on strategy. He’s so far off max every race it’s embarrassing

RB are lucky they have such a good car, because a lot of strategy calls this season have been bizarre
 
Thornaby90 said:
Whats the reason for not having a standing start then after a red flag when they have done so previously?
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That’s just the race director being overly cautious than favouring one driver. Knew they wouldn’t allow a standing start on a wet track, same happened at Spa. Sadly we won’t ever see any wet races without red flags or long safety cars
 
newusername said:
I'm not looking it up & so happy to be shown I'm wrong but I don't think Lewis was as dominant as Max is, it always felt as though there was threat from a team mate or a Red Bull or a Ferrari and it took until the last race or so to seal victory in the championship.

Perez is leading the pack of also rans but he's 0.5-1.0 seconds a lap slower than Max and so there is no threat to Max's domination from any direction. Add in that the cars aren't as unreliable as they used to be and as already discussed weather & tyres have been neutralised to extent, no speeding in the pit lane and no refueling, even DRS has made overtaking boring & safe, and with the propensity for more yellows, safety cars & red flags neutralising the race, all the old staples that shook things up and introduced an element of chance and risk of failure into yet another a dominant display by the dominant team & driver(s) have been stripped from F1.
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Max verstappen having the fastest car by some way has also made overtaking safe for most
 
newusername said:
If you take Max's results out of the equation it is an incredibly exciting championship, 5 different winners, 11 different drivers on the podium etc.
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so if you delude yourself of the actual winner, racing for 2nd place is very competitive?

No, since the sham Vestappen title win & F1 lacking any sporting integrity in upholding it.. plus the new Sprint guff.. it's being candy flossed..

I can do without the pit walks & endless banal interviews both pre & post race.

Not watched one race this season, not even highlights - it's lost sporting integrity, it's entertainment & marketing now.
 
ForssAwakens said:
Ye I get excited at the prospect of who is going to finish 2nd…….
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BobUpnDown said:
so if you delude yourself of the actual winner, racing for 2nd place is very competitive?

No, since the sham Vestappen title win & F1 lacking any sporting integrity in upholding it.. plus the new Sprint guff.. it's being candy flossed..

I can do without the pit walks & endless banal interviews both pre & post race.

Not watched one race this season, not even highlights - it's lost sporting integrity, it's entertainment & marketing now.
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Agreed, I should've started the post with "Obviously if my aunt had balls" etc. but having said that Drive to Survive has shown that the 'race within a race' can be a quite compelling narrative... ;)
 
JM14 said:
With Lewis and Nico you had two top class drivers who provided so many memorable moments, it was only the second half of 19 and 20 that Hamilton dominated to this extent, Ferrari matched them the rest of the time with an illegal car.

Difference now is Perez is a poor driver who won’t get within 20 seconds a lap of Max, a RB 1-2 won’t ever be a competitive race
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I think our Ford Focus has a chance of getting within 20 seconds a lap, especially at Zandvort.

I guess you meant 20 seconds over a race rather than lap (sorry:))
 
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