QT from Liverpool last night

Jedi boro

Jedi boro

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Did anyone see it.

By they are a bitter bunch aren’t they

My fave was the young lass who made st have been all of 20 that said she hadn’t forgiven Churchill for sending gunboats down the Mersey.
 
Jedi boro said:
Did anyone see it.

By they are a bitter bunch aren’t they

My fave was the young lass who made st have been all of 20 that said she hadn’t forgiven Churchill for sending gunboats down the Mersey.
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I think that's excessive obviously, but they do also have genuine reasons to be bitter, and to be fair they campaign against them strongly.
 
Agree, going back to the 80s and Liverpool being completely abandoned under Thatcher - sorry managed decline - Hillsborough cover ups, The Sun etc......you can understand their bitterness. They definitely do have a chip on both shoulders, but I understand it. Maybe if more of the country had the Scouse attitude we could start the revolution........
 
It goes back much further than that (80s) - but that is now the cherry on the cake.

right back to the English Civil War - Liverpool was 'sacked' by the Royalists - and didnt get it back until after the Battle of Marston Moor (the royalists were led by the Marquis of Newcastle - Sunderland by the way, was a Parliamentary town - its one of the foundations for why geordies and mackems still dislike each other) - when the North was abandoned by the Royalists and focussed on the South such was their defeat at Marston.

the 1911 transport strike saw Churchil send gun boats up the mersey, and 2 strikers were shot dead by british soldiers (liverpools bloody sunday) - this histroy is passed from generation to generation.

just like we talk about being in Yorkshire, the battle of stamford bridge, eston miners, shipbuilding, 1st railways, wilf mannion, thatcher calling us Moaning Minnies etc etc etc - only The Borough goes back not too far 1800-1820 - liverpool to the 12th century - 600,000 living there, by the time Middlesbrough was born..

as Liverpudlians and evertonians sing "If you know your history...."
 
northernrower said:
Scousers just seem to have an almighty chip on their shoulder for some reason. Do they honestly believe they are more hard done to than most?

It's got to the point where they actually seem to thrive and revel in it. "Scouse not English" pretty much sums it up. It's petulant and it comes across as embarrassing.
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What is far more embarrassing is the acceptance of this governments endless lies, corruption, hypocrisy and sleaze by those comfy middle classes in the home counties. Perhaps if we had more areas like Merseyside that stood up to this then we would have a government with at least a little moral fibre.
 
People can see it as a chip on a shoulder or on both shoulders, and there are many things people can criticise the city and its people for too.

However there are many great places, achievements and people too. There is often real passion, grit and determination and sense of togetherness which you rarely find these days to fight against perceived injustice and by the way, if you want a cathedral we've gone one to spare. 😄
 
pierrequiroule said:
This was a good recent opinion piece on why the Liverpool fans boo the national anthem and explains where the term 'scouser' comes from for those who might not know.
www.independent.co.uk

This is why Liverpool fans boo the national anthem and this is what would stop it

The booing is a cry for justice, for equality, a howl against hunger and poverty. It is depressing that so many in Britain cannot hear that
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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A howl against poverty .
Those howling paid substantial amounts for tickets and travel to Wembley .
They don't do irony then.
 
The deliberate targeting by Thatcher of the Nation Union of Mineworkers is a thread which also runs through our country.
But thats not "bitterness" - its recent history and an important lesson in what happens when we allow politicians too much power and let them get away without being accountable.
It doesnt matter if someone is 20 or 80 - I`m glad they have the balls or otherwise to make salient points.
Ignore the lessons of history and they are likely to be repeated.......
 
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