HundredRoom
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Can you explain what it is. I genuinely have no idea. But then again I have no idea what the traffic light is about either.
Q. What does the Labour Party stand for?
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HundredRoom
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I thought the traffic light thing was Sadiqs idea. Hes a mayor isnt he?
Being a bit of an old git could you explain what the traffic lighy means ?
BlindBoyGrunt
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HundredRoom
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Every time I see him hes always getting in the back of a taxi
And a view that more people rejected since 1932.
Just forget him like a bad dream. Maybe his brother will take up the cause. Piers and Jeremy the far left privileged saviours .
HolgateCorner
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Yes and Bunter has adopted a good few of Corbyn’s policies but we couldn’t get him elected in 2017 or 2019 and a change was needed.
One of the main issues with Corbyn as Labour leader in my view is that he mobilised the anti Labour vote as much as he mobilised the pro Labour vote.
HolgateCorner
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He was a great Labour leader and nearly won in 2017 but Brexit has always been a Tory mess and it’s probably for the better that they own it going forward.
BlindBoyGrunt
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What doe this even mean?
bear66
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It means he doesn't know that rail and bus transportation was nationalised in 1948.
HundredRoom
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I dont know what doe it mean
Do we? Look at the effort the MPs and staffers went to in order to cut the legs out from under Corbyn, the leaked document last April that's been buried ever since, the Forde report that was meant to come out last July and still hasn't been seen. Now we're meant to just assume they're democratic socialists?
HundredRoom
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No it means JCs view of the future was rejected by the biggest margin at a GE since 1932
Crackers thing to come out with. Their politics is nothing alike.
HolgateCorner
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I’ve no idea, not seen it before, but I know Sadiq got himself elected for a second term with well over a million votes, so you need to look further to make whatever point it is you want to make.
bear66
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But his view was accepted in 1948. When good people who had given up so much in WW2 were rewarded by being given a stake in their own country. That view pervaded in general elections until 1979 when the people were robbed of what was rightly theirs.
JCs view of the future is also the only one to gain Labour seats at a General Election in the last 24 years.
HolgateCorner
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Yes we do.
Who defends the NHS and its staff? Who brought in the minimum wage? Who listens to the views of working people via the trade unions? Who do most young, low income people look towards to look after their interests? Who defends the minorities and the vulnerable? Who believes in jobs for everybody? Who believes in the right to good housing regardless of income? Who believes in good state education?
And, on the other side -
Who would like to make the NHS insurance based? Who believes in ‘born to rule’? Who regularly appoints Old Etonians and public schoolboys into key positions? Who looks after the rich at the expense of the poor? Who encourages tax evasion and avoidance? Who promotes the private education system? Who believes in votes for money and the rule of contacts, influence and privilege?
I think we know don’t we?
Redwurzel
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The Labour Party for me stood for good public services, giving working class kids the chance to do better their parents, through decent health, housing and state education. Where job opportunities were limited they intervened to create more employment opportunities in those areas. Labour worked toward fairer employment law too and generally worked towards more equality. Better supported care for the elderly. This all would mean higher taxes and bigger public sector to some degree.
The Conservative Party as the name suggests existed to conserve the status quo. To me they stood for stronger security (police and armed forces), lower taxes, lower state spending, encouring private enterprise. They promoted saving more so people had a better chance to pay for their own care such as care for the elderly. The CP is also called the Unionist party as it strongly wants to maintain the United Kingdom.
BREXIT has influenced the parties recently as we know.
The Conservative Party as the name suggests existed to conserve the status quo. To me they stood for stronger security (police and armed forces), lower taxes, lower state spending, encouring private enterprise. They promoted saving more so people had a better chance to pay for their own care such as care for the elderly. The CP is also called the Unionist party as it strongly wants to maintain the United Kingdom.
BREXIT has influenced the parties recently as we know.
newyddion
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𝗟iberal democracy
𝗔ccusations of antisemitism
𝗕oard of deputies
𝗢nly considering the needs of mps
𝗨ndermining democracy
𝗥efusing to listen to their members
𝗣assing blame onto voters
𝗔bstaining
𝗥emaining
𝗧aking the working class for granted
𝗬earning for neoliberalism
Labour defends the NHS , the NHS is indefensible. They have been involved in more enquires and reports on botched treatment than any other health service in the World. They are a huge ungovernable and money sucking mess. There needs to be a new look at the structure and reorganisation so that we get back to basics with treating people properly for accidents and diseases rather than trans operations and IVF etc.
Labour provides jobs in areas of need ! How and where and how many ?
This is a wish list and not reality !
This wish list is not the modern Labour Party , it is looking at the Labour Party of the past through rose tinted specs !
Labour provides jobs in areas of need ! How and where and how many ?
This is a wish list and not reality !
This wish list is not the modern Labour Party , it is looking at the Labour Party of the past through rose tinted specs !