Premier league proposes reducing number of clubs 20 to 18 and scrapping the league cup

It isn't the only way out. Let the clubs fail. They'll all start again. And owned and run by fans this time.

Start again - just like Darlington did? A lot of clubs will sink like stones if they go bust. The ground will go, the training facility will go, and local interest will go with it.

Some clubs may come back, but it'll take 15 years and a lot of dedicated fans just to get back to the football league again. Having a few thousand people anteing up a few hundred quid doesn't get you very far.
 
Sums up how I feel really, my interest in football is waning and has been for a while, which in turn means my interest in Boro does too. I find the whole thing a bit pathetic these days and increasingly so, to the point where I can take it or leave it.
The Boro are the only thing which keeps me interested in professional football at all, for me it has nothing left to commend it, it makes it even worse when posters are pointing out the influence of foreign tv audiences. And as said above, getting into the premier league is actually starting to lose its attraction for clubs like ours.
 
Start again - just like Darlington did? A lot of clubs will sink like stones if they go bust. The ground will go, the training facility will go, and local interest will go with it.

Some clubs may come back, but it'll take 15 years and a lot of dedicated fans just to get back to the football league again. Having a few thousand people anteing up a few hundred quid doesn't get you very far.
Might not be a bad thing to reset the clock while the likes of Man U find some foreign teams to play instead.
 
Of course Parry has consulted with the EFL clubs on this. If he hasnt then his job would be untenable. I suspect the majority of EFL clubs are in favour such is their desperate plight. .
So it seems from the interview with Parry in The Telegraph that he hasn't formally consulted with EFL clubs, save for some apparently informal discussions with a very select number of chairman, Gibson being one.
 
Will be absolutely devastated if we get rid of the league cup. For someone who is becoming a first time dad soon I would be absolutely devastated to explain to my son that the only trophy we have won in our history no longer is in existence because of some awful power grab by the premier league mega rich. Would be gutted.

Hope none of this ***** comes off.


I think explaining that the League Cup doesn't exist any more would be a lot easier than explaining that the club you have supported all your life doesn't exist any more.

Perhaps MFC isn't typical - because of Steve Gibson - but for dozens of clubs in the football league, this is a battle of survival. No money from the Prem League = no club any more.
 
I think explaining that the League Cup doesn't exist any more would be a lot easier than explaining that the club you have supported all your life doesn't exist any more.

Perhaps MFC isn't typical - because of Steve Gibson - but for dozens of clubs in the football league, this is a battle of survival. No money from the Prem League = no club any more.

I really don’t think it’s as simple as that but I take your point.
 
The more I read this the more it seems that Parry is the brains behind this. He says it will benefit the EFL, but given his past you have to question his motives. It undoubtedly weakens the Premier League as an entity, but strengthens the big six. It is a bit of a repeat of how David Dein and co used the FA to shaft the Football League back in the day, this time the Glaziers and Fenway are using the EFL to shaft the Premier League.

At the end of the day the big six won't be satisfied until they negotiate deals individually and are guaranteed to remain elite forever. It's clubs like Wolves and Leicester who lose most from this and it would have seriously harmed us twenty years ago. It certainly decreases our chances of ever getting back to our 90s early noughties glory days, but does anyone ever think that could happen any way?
Wolves won’t be going anywhere they will be front and centre with this. Or rather there money men will be.
 
If the top 6 drive everyone else to the wall they'll still be Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich etc to play against. I think they'd be fine with it.

To be honest I don't think that's what they want though, they want a situation like they have in Spain where the TV revenue is distributed less evenly. The likes of Man Utd and Liverpool know that the oversees viewer is paying to watch them so they get the lions share of the money.

This isn't about helping out anyone else for the big clubs, its about making themselves richer.

I wish there was a way of kicking out the big 6 and having a football league without them.
This is exactly what they want % share eps for overseas rights.
 
A good post from Martin Calladine:

https://theuglygame.wordpress.com/2...icture-and-the-end-of-football-as-we-know-it/

"Project Big Picture is disaster capitalism writ large. In exchange for a £250m loan and a promised increase in revenue sharing, the Big 6 take complete control of all aspects of the Premier League as well as of fixture scheduling. They also get the increased formalisation of links to between large and small clubs and to start experimenting with selling their own TV rights.

"This is an incredible list, all their Christmases at once. It creates precedents for, among other things, B Teams and an end to collective TV rights sales."
 
This is what I'm thinking I'd love to see the other 12 Premier league clubs call their bluff and threaten to leave the Premier league.

It would never happen but its a nice thought.

Would love this to happen.
86 clubs form 4:new divisions with a strict constitution on spending, amount of football on TV etc.

I'd have flat rate budgets per division too.

The big 6 are welcome to join, but must play by the rules.

Or they can play amongst themselves or in a European super League. It's up to them, I'm not bothers.
 
Would love this to happen.
86 clubs form 4:new divisions with a strict constitution on spending, amount of football on TV etc.

I'd have flat rate budgets per division too.

The big 6 are welcome to join, but must play by the rules.

Or they can play amongst themselves or in a European super League. It's up to them, I'm not bothers.
I think a lot of fans are getting tired of the money focussed antics of the big clubs in the premier league and are not bothered if there is a reset.
 
I think the money is a turn off in its own right.

I note the more money the game makes, the more fans have to pay. I also note the more money in the game, the less sustainable it becomes.

We surely don't believe the solution is more money?
 
The more I hear comments from lower league clubs outside the premier league the more it looks like this might actually happen. The main problem seems to be the key decision making to be made by the minority of premier league clubs which is clearly unfair.
 
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