Poland “giving away” its MIG-29s for Ukraine.

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United States have agreed to supply Poland with F-16s
can’t see Putin taking this lightly
maybe another threat to the west is incoming?
 
So this means Ukraine gets the Migs it is experienced in flying?
Kind of good.
Kind of dicey :oops:
 
I wonder where they will be based and take off from. Wherever it is its going to be a target. Cant see them using a Polish airfield.
 
I'm building an Anderson shelter in the back garden and stockpiling silver foil and food
No really. I'm retired and need a hobby ;)

Seriously though, this sht could get out of hand very quickly, with the muppets in charge of the big states, so I am getting a little worried now. Not for World War, but the decades this will take us back, financially and humanitarianly .
 
go-nads! said:
Americans have vetoed this suggestion.
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The problem was that the Poles weren't going to give the MiG's to Ukraine directly - they wanted (without any prior notification or consultation) to give them to the US who would then transfer them to Ukraine.

That would have meant the US - and by extension NATO, being more or less directly involved in the war with Russia.

I don't think that particular proposal ever had a chance of going through.

U.S. rejects Poland's offer to give it Russian-made fighter jets for Ukraine
 
Do Ukraine usually have Migs? I mean I'm guessing not all planes are equal and just because you can fly one doesn't mean you can fly any. Its not a car.

Also all the support infrastructure an aircrew needs like maintenance teams and knowing weapon systems etc.
 
Liamo said:
The problem was that the Poles weren't going to give the MiG's to Ukraine directly - they wanted (without any prior notification or consultation) to give them to the US who would then transfer them to Ukraine.

That would have meant the US - and by extension NATO, being more or less directly involved in the war with Russia.

I don't think that particular proposal ever had a chance of going through.

U.S. rejects Poland's offer to give it Russian-made fighter jets for Ukraine
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Thay middle paragraph is curious? If Poland gave the planes directly to Ukraine, that would also mean NATO being directly involved in the war
 
MAD_POG said:
I think the most pressing question is why is Poland a NATO country is buying Migs off the Russians in the first place !
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They are 30 odd year old planes from the old Soviet era and just what Poland have left over
 
I'm a bit worried about this.

It seems that Ukraine are holding their own currently and in the peace talks Russia are giving ground. Maybe this should be put on hold for a while.
 
S7DiscoDown said:
Do Ukraine usually have Migs? I mean I'm guessing not all planes are equal and just because you can fly one doesn't mean you can fly any. Its not a car.

Also all the support infrastructure an aircrew needs like maintenance teams and knowing weapon systems etc.
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Yes, they do. Poland also have a fleet of F-16s so the "plan" would be for the US to replace the MiG-29s with F-16s, giving Poland a common fleet and somehow get the MiGs to Ukraine.
 
Ebor said:
I'm building an Anderson shelter in the back garden and stockpiling silver foil and food
No really. I'm retired and need a hobby ;)

Seriously though, this sht could get out of hand very quickly, with the muppets in charge of the big states, so I am getting a little worried now. Not for World War, but the decades this will take us back, financially and humanitarianly .
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Those Doomsday Preppers were right all along!
 
The plan is good. It's just trying to work out how to get the MiGs into Ukraine. By road on low loaders? Ukrainian pilots to fly from Poland to Ukraine although that probably still means NATO are too close to participating in the war? Maybe flying low level to avoid Russia radar and undetected until they are in Ukraine.
 
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