Poker

I play regularly but I'm in the south East. Play at a private game in North London which is a really good balance of good play/enjoyment.

I'm not sure what level you're at but if you're into serious games then There's a boro lad called Sam Clarke who creates regular Vlogs on YouTube. He featured a private game in boro a couple of weeks back that looks to be very juicy.

You can contact him for details if interested Gaz.

The content he creates is entertaining even if you're not that serious a player 👍🏻
 
Emmersons_BrazillianDong said:
I play regularly but I'm in the south East. Play at a private game in North London which is a really good balance of good play/enjoyment.

I'm not sure what level you're at but if you're into serious games then There's a boro lad called Sam Clarke who creates regular Vlogs on YouTube. He featured a private game in boro a couple of weeks back that looks to be very juicy.

You can contact him for details if interested Gaz.

The content he creates is entertaining even if you're not that serious a player 👍🏻
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Sound I’ll look him up. I have solid foundations, recently started playing at the casino. I would say I’ve found a winning formula. But the games in around Redcar are hit and miss.

Going from a local pub game to casino the level is slightly higher but my foundations seem to be holding up at the moment.

What about yourself what standard would you say your at. Will look Sam Clarke up
 
GazC_MFC said:
Sound I’ll look him up. I have solid foundations, recently started playing at the casino. I would say I’ve found a winning formula. But the games in around Redcar are hit and miss.

Going from a local pub game to casino the level is slightly higher but my foundations seem to be holding up at the moment.

What about yourself what standard would you say your at. Will look Sam Clarke up
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I started playing about 8 years ago. Done a ton of learning both structured and through experience. I'm a winning player now overall which as you'll know, isnt easy.

Played some decent size £50k guarantee tournaments here and in Vegas and won a couple of decent scores including an event at Dusk til Dawn in Nottingham. I'm friends with some of British pro players of the last 4/5 years who I've come across by playing in London over the years. It's been a very enjoyable thing to learn.

Now I'm much more focused on game selection and playing cash. The allure of tournaments is great but it's much better to go to a game every week or two and possibly take home 100's rather than playing for 1000's with the variance involved.

Always around if you ever fancy having a chat. If you do find a decent game locally I'd love to know for when I'm visiting family 👍🏻
 
Emmersons_BrazillianDong said:
I started playing about 8 years ago. Done a ton of learning both structured and through experience. I'm a winning player now overall which as you'll know, isnt easy.

Played some decent size £50k guarantee tournaments here and in Vegas and won a couple of decent scores including an event at Dusk til Dawn in Nottingham. I'm friends with some of British pro players of the last 4/5 years who I've come across by playing in London over the years. It's been a very enjoyable thing to learn.

Now I'm much more focused on game selection and playing cash. The allure of tournaments is great but it's much better to go to a game every week or two and possibly take home 100's rather than playing for 1000's with the variance involved.

Always around if you ever fancy having a chat. If you do find a decent game locally I'd love to know for when I'm visiting family 👍🏻
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Surely you should have just said, erm I’m alright ish
 
Emmersons_BrazillianDong said:
I started playing about 8 years ago. Done a ton of learning both structured and through experience. I'm a winning player now overall which as you'll know, isnt easy.

Played some decent size £50k guarantee tournaments here and in Vegas and won a couple of decent scores including an event at Dusk til Dawn in Nottingham. I'm friends with some of British pro players of the last 4/5 years who I've come across by playing in London over the years. It's been a very enjoyable thing to learn.

Now I'm much more focused on game selection and playing cash. The allure of tournaments is great but it's much better to go to a game every week or two and possibly take home 100's rather than playing for 1000's with the variance involved.

Always around if you ever fancy having a chat. If you do find a decent game locally I'd love to know for when I'm visiting family 👍🏻
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Quality mate, ye I think I’d like to get into cash eventually. Very loose cash game locally so a lot of money to be made. Great that you’ve got it working for you. Discipline is my biggest leak at the Moment on the turn/river.

I like tournaments play I enjoy it more and would like to build my winnings up before transitioning to cash

Ye would be good for a catch up when you are back
 
Emmersons_BrazillianDong said:
I play regularly but I'm in the south East. Play at a private game in North London which is a really good balance of good play/enjoyment.

I'm not sure what level you're at but if you're into serious games then There's a boro lad called Sam Clarke who creates regular Vlogs on YouTube. He featured a private game in boro a couple of weeks back that looks to be very juicy.

You can contact him for details if interested Gaz.

The content he creates is entertaining even if you're not that serious a player 👍🏻
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I've not heard of Sam Clarke, will definitely look him up, sounds like the Boro's Brad Owen! 👍👍👍
 
GazC_MFC said:
Quality mate, ye I think I’d like to get into cash eventually. Very loose cash game locally so a lot of money to be made. Great that you’ve got it working for you. Discipline is my biggest leak at the Moment on the turn/river.

I like tournaments play I enjoy it more and would like to build my winnings up before transitioning to cash

Ye would be good for a catch up when you are back
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That's exactly the kind of game that you want. It's taken me ages to find one, but my most regular game is exactly that, with lots of people giving action and playing very loose. The challenge with these games is that the variance is so high that a lot of the time you are paying exactly as you should be and you still lose. That's a difficult thing for the mind to comprehend and plays havoc with the mental game and one of the biggest pitfalls.

Last week in my game I was down by 4/5 buy-ins in the first 90 minutes, which is a first for me in that space of time. No bad play, just variance and others playing when they shouldn't. But that's where the money is and it has to be embraced. The longer you play, the more the variance levels out towards expected value (but only if you are playing good poker) -Three hours later I cashed out with 5 buy-ins - a 10 buy-in swing is ridiculous!

There's a book which you should definitely read on this called the Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler that explains these concepts really well as providing a lot of advice on the mental game. Here's a pdf copy I've just found:

http://www.pokerbooks.lt/books/en/The_Mental_Game_of_Poker_ Jared_Tendler.pdf

Another key point is that if you're playing online at all, where you can be playing 30-50 hands per hour, then playing live is going to feel frustratingly slow where you're probably only getting a maximum of 50% of that number of hands played in 60 minutes. Make sure that you're conscious of that. Live play is so much slower but the quality of players is so much lower too. Even the micro stakes $0.25-$0.50 online are hard to beat over the long term - they are worlds apart.

One of the things that I love about the game is how the lessons learned are so immediately applicable to life too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that we're practicing Buddhism :LOL: But life is also a game of incomplete information, where we can only make decisions with the info that is in front of us. There's something really humbling when you genuinely realise that you can do everything right, work incredibly hard and the cards just dont fall right. You don't let the results affect the fact that the correct decision was made and try not to be too results oriented. Conversely, it's possible to prepare poorly and to sometimes get lucky but it's good to recognise that, rather than falling for the idea that your luck is somehow the benefit of skills you don't have.

Similarly, the game constantly evolves, you can't stay still otherwise you get taken over. Strategy develops and changes and you've got to adapt to those changes.
 
Emmersons_BrazillianDong said:
That's exactly the kind of game that you want. It's taken me ages to find one, but my most regular game is exactly that, with lots of people giving action and playing very loose. The challenge with these games is that the variance is so high that a lot of the time you are paying exactly as you should be and you still lose. That's a difficult thing for the mind to comprehend and plays havoc with the mental game and one of the biggest pitfalls.

Last week in my game I was down by 4/5 buy-ins in the first 90 minutes, which is a first for me in that space of time. No bad play, just variance and others playing when they shouldn't. But that's where the money is and it has to be embraced. The longer you play, the more the variance levels out towards expected value (but only if you are playing good poker) -Three hours later I cashed out with 5 buy-ins - a 10 buy-in swing is ridiculous!

There's a book which you should definitely read on this called the Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler that explains these concepts really well as providing a lot of advice on the mental game. Here's a pdf copy I've just found:

http://www.pokerbooks.lt/books/en/The_Mental_Game_of_Poker_ Jared_Tendler.pdf

Another key point is that if you're playing online at all, where you can be playing 30-50 hands per hour, then playing live is going to feel frustratingly slow where you're probably only getting a maximum of 50% of that number of hands played in 60 minutes. Make sure that you're conscious of that. Live play is so much slower but the quality of players is so much lower too. Even the micro stakes $0.25-$0.50 online are hard to beat over the long term - they are worlds apart.

One of the things that I love about the game is how the lessons learned are so immediately applicable to life too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that we're practicing Buddhism :LOL: But life is also a game of incomplete information, where we can only make decisions with the info that is in front of us. There's something really humbling when you genuinely realise that you can do everything right, work incredibly hard and the cards just dont fall right. You don't let the results affect the fact that the correct decision was made and try not to be too results oriented. Conversely, it's possible to prepare poorly and to sometimes get lucky but it's good to recognise that, rather than falling for the idea that your luck is somehow the benefit of skills you don't have.

Similarly, the game constantly evolves, you can't stay still otherwise you get taken over. Strategy develops and changes and you've got to adapt to those changes.
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Emmerson...hello mate....Great bit of poker advice.
Enjoyed that
I've been playing live about 17 18 years....around teesside and down at dusk till dawn....
I played a couple of times in the one televised on channel 4 a few years back and was sat on the table with Chris moneymaker...and in all honesty I felt beaten by every hand he played it was a weird.feeling
Buy I learned a lot from it
I've won a few locally with take home of 1200 and 1100 but that was a few years ago.
Since covid the game is taking a while to warm up again locally on the live front
I too am looking for a good North East tourney
As for online ...you're right...its almost pointless unless it's your actual job and the variances will balance out over extended periods...I Try not to play online....but I still do and its not profitable overall
 
Good thread. I played a lot of online poker around 2008 and it was really profitable. I was only playing relatively small stakes, but my bankroll grew significantly over those times. I loved learning poker theory and read a load of books, but after I had to cash out a big chunk of my bankroll I struggled to find the motivation to drop down the levels to build it back up again. I still watch poker videos and tournaments, but only occasionally play online. The standard online is way tougher than it was when I used to play. Everyone is really tight and although I am not certain it seems like there may be a lot of bots playing as they are all playing so similar.

I have never played live at all though and it is something I definitely want to do though.
 
Ian Bairds Ears said:
Emmerson...hello mate....Great bit of poker advice.
Enjoyed that
I've been playing live about 17 18 years....around teesside and down at dusk till dawn....
I played a couple of times in the one televised on channel 4 a few years back and was sat on the table with Chris moneymaker...and in all honesty I felt beaten by every hand he played it was a weird.feeling
Buy I learned a lot from it
I've won a few locally with take home of 1200 and 1100 but that was a few years ago.
Since covid the game is taking a while to warm up again locally on the live front
I too am looking for a good North East tourney
As for online ...you're right...its almost pointless unless it's your actual job and the variances will balance out over extended periods...I Try not to play online....but I still do and its not profitable overall
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Hello mate 👍🏻

Some great experiences there sounds amazing. I met Moneymaker at the Hippodrome a few years ago, such a lovely guy and he was really working on his game at the time, having lived off the one big success he had. Before covid he had some real momentum and I think we'll set a lot more of him.

At that event, Liv Boree and Jake Cody were there too though both are off the scene at the minute and have been for a little while now.

I know what you mean about people getting back into live poker. There was a huge online boom at the beginning of covid and most of the local casinos have not brought dealt games back because of the struggle with numbers but there's some great private games going with low rake and lots of action, including one in boro in the video linked here


If genuinely interested then you can contact Sam for the details of the game. I've spoken to him about the venue and am hoping to get a game in when I'm back.

Good to see some other poker players. Feels like a world away from a few years ago but it's still fantastic to be learning
 
B17er said:
Good thread. I played a lot of online poker around 2008 and it was really profitable. I was only playing relatively small stakes, but my bankroll grew significantly over those times. I loved learning poker theory and read a load of books, but after I had to cash out a big chunk of my bankroll I struggled to find the motivation to drop down the levels to build it back up again. I still watch poker videos and tournaments, but only occasionally play online. The standard online is way tougher than it was when I used to play. Everyone is really tight and although I am not certain it seems like there may be a lot of bots playing as they are all playing so similar.

I have never played live at all though and it is something I definitely want to do though.
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Bots are definitely an issue online mate but that play is really just very skilled players learning well and playing as close to game theory optimal as possible.

Online is incredibly tough, there's just so many good learning resources and people willing to put in the work. There's solver programmes that provide guidance on fame strategy on every street of action depending on which cards fall. The game is nowhere near solved and it'll be almost impossible for a human to solve the game but it offers a new way of playing as closely to perfect as you can.

That said, it's no good for live games where you should be playing exploitative to make the most of the weaknesses of those playing.

Live games are full of people wanting to actually gamble rather than play the game properly and that's what makes them so attractive if you're interested in making money along with enjoying the challenge.
 
Emmersons_BrazillianDong said:
That's exactly the kind of game that you want. It's taken me ages to find one, but my most regular game is exactly that, with lots of people giving action and playing very loose. The challenge with these games is that the variance is so high that a lot of the time you are paying exactly as you should be and you still lose. That's a difficult thing for the mind to comprehend and plays havoc with the mental game and one of the biggest pitfalls.

Last week in my game I was down by 4/5 buy-ins in the first 90 minutes, which is a first for me in that space of time. No bad play, just variance and others playing when they shouldn't. But that's where the money is and it has to be embraced. The longer you play, the more the variance levels out towards expected value (but only if you are playing good poker) -Three hours later I cashed out with 5 buy-ins - a 10 buy-in swing is ridiculous!

There's a book which you should definitely read on this called the Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler that explains these concepts really well as providing a lot of advice on the mental game. Here's a pdf copy I've just found:

http://www.pokerbooks.lt/books/en/The_Mental_Game_of_Poker_ Jared_Tendler.pdf

Another key point is that if you're playing online at all, where you can be playing 30-50 hands per hour, then playing live is going to feel frustratingly slow where you're probably only getting a maximum of 50% of that number of hands played in 60 minutes. Make sure that you're conscious of that. Live play is so much slower but the quality of players is so much lower too. Even the micro stakes $0.25-$0.50 online are hard to beat over the long term - they are worlds apart.

One of the things that I love about the game is how the lessons learned are so immediately applicable to life too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that we're practicing Buddhism :LOL: But life is also a game of incomplete information, where we can only make decisions with the info that is in front of us. There's something really humbling when you genuinely realise that you can do everything right, work incredibly hard and the cards just dont fall right. You don't let the results affect the fact that the correct decision was made and try not to be too results oriented. Conversely, it's possible to prepare poorly and to sometimes get lucky but it's good to recognise that, rather than falling for the idea that your luck is somehow the benefit of skills you don't have.

Similarly, the game constantly evolves, you can't stay still otherwise you get taken over. Strategy develops and changes and you've got to adapt to those changes.
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Ye cracking advice definitely. I really embrace bad beats tbh. I know that in the long run it’s a winning position. For instance on Friday a lad next to me was whinging that he’d be sat there for 6 hours and some guy pushed on the cut off with k9s and he was in the BB with jacks.

‘6 hours to get beat like that’ and I’m thinking what else do you wanting to be getting with. Ultimately any hand can win at poker.

I find online cash boring to be honest, like you say even small stakes have their fair share of talented players. I think you need to be more theoretically correct

Will give that book a read. Think I’m pretty good mental wise, rarely tilt and I’ve become really disciplined with ranges pre flop which I would put down to a successful 2022 so far
 
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