ForssAwakens
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Anyone play regularly. Any decent local games
Sound I’ll look him up. I have solid foundations, recently started playing at the casino. I would say I’ve found a winning formula. But the games in around Redcar are hit and miss.I play regularly but I'm in the south East. Play at a private game in North London which is a really good balance of good play/enjoyment.
I'm not sure what level you're at but if you're into serious games then There's a boro lad called Sam Clarke who creates regular Vlogs on YouTube. He featured a private game in boro a couple of weeks back that looks to be very juicy.
You can contact him for details if interested Gaz.
The content he creates is entertaining even if you're not that serious a player
I started playing about 8 years ago. Done a ton of learning both structured and through experience. I'm a winning player now overall which as you'll know, isnt easy.Sound I’ll look him up. I have solid foundations, recently started playing at the casino. I would say I’ve found a winning formula. But the games in around Redcar are hit and miss.
Going from a local pub game to casino the level is slightly higher but my foundations seem to be holding up at the moment.
What about yourself what standard would you say your at. Will look Sam Clarke up
Surely you should have just said, erm I’m alright ishI started playing about 8 years ago. Done a ton of learning both structured and through experience. I'm a winning player now overall which as you'll know, isnt easy.
Played some decent size £50k guarantee tournaments here and in Vegas and won a couple of decent scores including an event at Dusk til Dawn in Nottingham. I'm friends with some of British pro players of the last 4/5 years who I've come across by playing in London over the years. It's been a very enjoyable thing to learn.
Now I'm much more focused on game selection and playing cash. The allure of tournaments is great but it's much better to go to a game every week or two and possibly take home 100's rather than playing for 1000's with the variance involved.
Always around if you ever fancy having a chat. If you do find a decent game locally I'd love to know for when I'm visiting family
Quality mate, ye I think I’d like to get into cash eventually. Very loose cash game locally so a lot of money to be made. Great that you’ve got it working for you. Discipline is my biggest leak at the Moment on the turn/river.I started playing about 8 years ago. Done a ton of learning both structured and through experience. I'm a winning player now overall which as you'll know, isnt easy.
Played some decent size £50k guarantee tournaments here and in Vegas and won a couple of decent scores including an event at Dusk til Dawn in Nottingham. I'm friends with some of British pro players of the last 4/5 years who I've come across by playing in London over the years. It's been a very enjoyable thing to learn.
Now I'm much more focused on game selection and playing cash. The allure of tournaments is great but it's much better to go to a game every week or two and possibly take home 100's rather than playing for 1000's with the variance involved.
Always around if you ever fancy having a chat. If you do find a decent game locally I'd love to know for when I'm visiting family
I've not heard of Sam Clarke, will definitely look him up, sounds like the Boro's Brad Owen!I play regularly but I'm in the south East. Play at a private game in North London which is a really good balance of good play/enjoyment.
I'm not sure what level you're at but if you're into serious games then There's a boro lad called Sam Clarke who creates regular Vlogs on YouTube. He featured a private game in boro a couple of weeks back that looks to be very juicy.
You can contact him for details if interested Gaz.
The content he creates is entertaining even if you're not that serious a player
He's doing great and as well as travelling the world over the past couple of years, he's back in the Boro playing games locally and in Newcastle.I've not heard of Sam Clarke, will definitely look him up, sounds like the Boro's Brad Owen!
Quality mate, ye I think I’d like to get into cash eventually. Very loose cash game locally so a lot of money to be made. Great that you’ve got it working for you. Discipline is my biggest leak at the Moment on the turn/river.
I like tournaments play I enjoy it more and would like to build my winnings up before transitioning to cash
Ye would be good for a catch up when you are back
Emmerson...hello mate....Great bit of poker advice.That's exactly the kind of game that you want. It's taken me ages to find one, but my most regular game is exactly that, with lots of people giving action and playing very loose. The challenge with these games is that the variance is so high that a lot of the time you are paying exactly as you should be and you still lose. That's a difficult thing for the mind to comprehend and plays havoc with the mental game and one of the biggest pitfalls.
Last week in my game I was down by 4/5 buy-ins in the first 90 minutes, which is a first for me in that space of time. No bad play, just variance and others playing when they shouldn't. But that's where the money is and it has to be embraced. The longer you play, the more the variance levels out towards expected value (but only if you are playing good poker) -Three hours later I cashed out with 5 buy-ins - a 10 buy-in swing is ridiculous!
There's a book which you should definitely read on this called the Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler that explains these concepts really well as providing a lot of advice on the mental game. Here's a pdf copy I've just found:
http://www.pokerbooks.lt/books/en/The_Mental_Game_of_Poker_ Jared_Tendler.pdf
Another key point is that if you're playing online at all, where you can be playing 30-50 hands per hour, then playing live is going to feel frustratingly slow where you're probably only getting a maximum of 50% of that number of hands played in 60 minutes. Make sure that you're conscious of that. Live play is so much slower but the quality of players is so much lower too. Even the micro stakes $0.25-$0.50 online are hard to beat over the long term - they are worlds apart.
One of the things that I love about the game is how the lessons learned are so immediately applicable to life too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that we're practicing Buddhism But life is also a game of incomplete information, where we can only make decisions with the info that is in front of us. There's something really humbling when you genuinely realise that you can do everything right, work incredibly hard and the cards just dont fall right. You don't let the results affect the fact that the correct decision was made and try not to be too results oriented. Conversely, it's possible to prepare poorly and to sometimes get lucky but it's good to recognise that, rather than falling for the idea that your luck is somehow the benefit of skills you don't have.
Similarly, the game constantly evolves, you can't stay still otherwise you get taken over. Strategy develops and changes and you've got to adapt to those changes.
Hello mateEmmerson...hello mate....Great bit of poker advice.
Enjoyed that
I've been playing live about 17 18 years....around teesside and down at dusk till dawn....
I played a couple of times in the one televised on channel 4 a few years back and was sat on the table with Chris moneymaker...and in all honesty I felt beaten by every hand he played it was a weird.feeling
Buy I learned a lot from it
I've won a few locally with take home of 1200 and 1100 but that was a few years ago.
Since covid the game is taking a while to warm up again locally on the live front
I too am looking for a good North East tourney
As for online ...you're right...its almost pointless unless it's your actual job and the variances will balance out over extended periods...I Try not to play online....but I still do and its not profitable overall
Bots are definitely an issue online mate but that play is really just very skilled players learning well and playing as close to game theory optimal as possible.Good thread. I played a lot of online poker around 2008 and it was really profitable. I was only playing relatively small stakes, but my bankroll grew significantly over those times. I loved learning poker theory and read a load of books, but after I had to cash out a big chunk of my bankroll I struggled to find the motivation to drop down the levels to build it back up again. I still watch poker videos and tournaments, but only occasionally play online. The standard online is way tougher than it was when I used to play. Everyone is really tight and although I am not certain it seems like there may be a lot of bots playing as they are all playing so similar.
I have never played live at all though and it is something I definitely want to do though.
Ye cracking advice definitely. I really embrace bad beats tbh. I know that in the long run it’s a winning position. For instance on Friday a lad next to me was whinging that he’d be sat there for 6 hours and some guy pushed on the cut off with k9s and he was in the BB with jacks.That's exactly the kind of game that you want. It's taken me ages to find one, but my most regular game is exactly that, with lots of people giving action and playing very loose. The challenge with these games is that the variance is so high that a lot of the time you are paying exactly as you should be and you still lose. That's a difficult thing for the mind to comprehend and plays havoc with the mental game and one of the biggest pitfalls.
Last week in my game I was down by 4/5 buy-ins in the first 90 minutes, which is a first for me in that space of time. No bad play, just variance and others playing when they shouldn't. But that's where the money is and it has to be embraced. The longer you play, the more the variance levels out towards expected value (but only if you are playing good poker) -Three hours later I cashed out with 5 buy-ins - a 10 buy-in swing is ridiculous!
There's a book which you should definitely read on this called the Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler that explains these concepts really well as providing a lot of advice on the mental game. Here's a pdf copy I've just found:
http://www.pokerbooks.lt/books/en/The_Mental_Game_of_Poker_ Jared_Tendler.pdf
Another key point is that if you're playing online at all, where you can be playing 30-50 hands per hour, then playing live is going to feel frustratingly slow where you're probably only getting a maximum of 50% of that number of hands played in 60 minutes. Make sure that you're conscious of that. Live play is so much slower but the quality of players is so much lower too. Even the micro stakes $0.25-$0.50 online are hard to beat over the long term - they are worlds apart.
One of the things that I love about the game is how the lessons learned are so immediately applicable to life too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that we're practicing Buddhism But life is also a game of incomplete information, where we can only make decisions with the info that is in front of us. There's something really humbling when you genuinely realise that you can do everything right, work incredibly hard and the cards just dont fall right. You don't let the results affect the fact that the correct decision was made and try not to be too results oriented. Conversely, it's possible to prepare poorly and to sometimes get lucky but it's good to recognise that, rather than falling for the idea that your luck is somehow the benefit of skills you don't have.
Similarly, the game constantly evolves, you can't stay still otherwise you get taken over. Strategy develops and changes and you've got to adapt to those changes.