Parks to re-open

TheLodger said:
Of course he should, that's the first duty of the council he leads.
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It’s like saying Middlesbrough has a drugs problem so I’m closing the town until further notice.
Closing the parks is detrimental to the physical and mental health of the majority and it’s in direct contravention of central government policy.
Those who won’t observe social distancing won’t suddenly comply because the parks are shut.
I know there are arguments that if It saves just one life then it is worth it but I think there is something fundamentally wrong about closing public open spaces particularly during this lockdown (which is only a partial lockdown anyway).
 
1finny said:
Is Middlesbrough really that different that he should take a different decision?
The government is guided by science
Preston is guided by what exactly? Gossip and headlines
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Have you seen the stats for Middlesbrough? It's quite staggering really considering we are a town in the north east.
 
Chappy112 said:
Have you seen the stats for Middlesbrough? It's quite staggering really considering we are a town in the north east.
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I have. My only question is what scientific evidence does Preston have that his course of action is correct.
Every other location in the country (many other hotspots too) are taking the government advice and opening parks.
 
Albert Park. The Parliament Road of open spaces. Whenever I look at these threads I find myself reading about places that I don't recognise, even though I visit them regularly. Until the lockdown I was using Albert Park several times a week. I was running there, walking my daughter's dog there and cutting through with my wife on the long way to town, and never ever, have I seen these marauding gangs of criminals of which people speak.

However, Peston closed our parks and the Government has maintained that we can still go running or walking so what does the park closure achieve other than concentrating all the exercisers onto the same pavements?
 
Only by seeing the cases per head of population can you make a comparison. Middlesbrough figures are high locally when compared with the other authorities around the old Cleveland area.
 
I just feel that if they opened the parks they will be abused. It happened a few weeks ago and the rate increased. Stories of group BBQ's and garden parties just goes to prove it.
 
Norfolkred1 said:
I just feel that if they opened the parks they will be abused. It happened a few weeks ago and the rate increased. Stories of group BBQ's and garden parties just goes to prove it.
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Why would Middlesbrough be any different to Stockton, Redcar & Cleveland and indeed North Yorkshire where Mr Preston lives, all them areas have the parks open.
 
Open the parks and police them like supermarkets if necessary, if that doesn’t work then ban the abusers from them, where there’s a will there’s a way, there will be council security and park employees that can be deployed to do this.

The vast majority of law abiding citizens in Middlesbrough should not be punished for the actions of an idiot minority and Middlesbrough has a lot of shared and garden less properties whose residents would welcome the opportunity to walk or exercise in a park.
 
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A friend told me that Easingwold has had its Friday market on throughout the lock down period.

It seems one rule for the country gentry and another for Berwick Hills
 
This is why they are locked down
https://www.progressive-policy.net/...NfeuL1fjLdaCHvAtY-3PPXqFZ_AynRof4zngyDESYN8Fw
"Middlesbrough (previously ranked the 2nd riskiest place) overtakes Walsall as the riskiest. It has a combined high case load and high level of systemic risk." REPORT 9th APRIL
In report there are a number of indicators -
COVID-19 cases
Health Life expectancy
The % of people over the age of 65
Age-standardised treatable mortality rates
The average “overall” rating for adult social care providers in a local area.
 
Robert Nichols said:
This is why they are locked down
https://www.progressive-policy.net/...NfeuL1fjLdaCHvAtY-3PPXqFZ_AynRof4zngyDESYN8Fw
"Middlesbrough (previously ranked the 2nd riskiest place) overtakes Walsall as the riskiest. It has a combined high case load and high level of systemic risk." REPORT 9th APRIL
In report there are a number of indicators -
COVID-19 cases
Health Life expectancy
The % of people over the age of 65
Age-standardised treatable mortality rates
The average “overall” rating for adult social care providers in a local area.
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This raises questions:
1. Does funnelling us all into smaller spaces decrease our risk of contracting the virus?
2.Where on that list do you draw the line. Should only the riskiest town have to suffer park closures whilst the rest of the country can open theirs?
3. Who is advising Andy Preston?
 
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