Our historical performance

When we get into a Champions League place someone will start a World War it has happened twice before (league position for Champions League). What do the conspiracy theorists make of that.
 
FishofContemplation said:
Worth noting that despite everything he had previously done, including getting us to Wembley for the first time that very season, the performance 34 years ago was enough to get Rioch sacked. Has Carrick really achieved enough to be safer?
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This was my point on another thread earlier. Every one of those troughs since 86 has resulted in a sacking except 98. Robbo kept his job for another 2 years,

1990 - Rioch
1994 - Lennie
2010 - Southgate
2012 - Mowbray
2020 - Woodgate

Gibbo's record speaks for itself

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Mustoes boots said:
When we get into a Champions League place someone will start a World War it has happened twice before (league position for Champions League). What do the conspiracy theorists make of that.
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1938 Season We finished 5th with Arsenal the winners.
Charlton and Brentford were also in the top 6
There is no way a southern parliament was going to risk us upsetting the apple cart and winning Div 1

And, I'm sure I read Hitler was a Bees fan

No conspiracy that..................
 
Yep. 1939 was going to be our year but not only did the Germans choose Middlesbrough to be the first town to bomb in Britain, they also scuppered our best start to a season ever in the top flight and got the league abandoned. :mad:
 
B_G said:
This was my point on another thread earlier. Every one of those troughs since 86 has resulted in a sacking except 98. Robbo kept his job for another 2 years,

1990 - Rioch
1994 - Lennie
2010 - Southgate
2012 - Mowbray
2020 - Woodgate

Gibbo's record speaks for itself

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You can only measure the low point once it starts going back up. That's just the low point so far. If we lose the rest of our matches, get relegated and then continue that form into next season in L1 before sacking him then our current position would be looking lofty!
 
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Appreciate our historic performance pre-Gibson but if anything shouts out from the Gibson years, it's money.

Roughly 10 years of gradual improvement, followed by 10 years or so as a top flight team (when we were punching above our weight financially) followed by 10 fairly fallow years where Gibson is now a small fish in a big pond.

Abramovich was 2003, looks like we held our own for a couple of seasons before more multi-billionaires joined the fun and we've struggled to compete since?
 
changingman said:
Appreciate our historic performance pre-Gibson but if anything shouts out from the Gibson years, it's money.

Roughly 10 years of gradual improvement, followed by 10 years or so as a top flight team (when we were punching above our weight financially) followed by 10 fairly fallow years where Gibson is now a small fish in a big pond.

Abramovich was 2003, looks like we held our own for a couple of seasons before more multi-billionaires joined the fun and we've struggled to compete since?
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Yes, and we've sacked manager after manager since 2017, and I wouldn't be surprised if we have another new one this year. Could be 9 managers in under 8 years if so.
 
GazBoro said:
Yep. 1939 was going to be our year but not only did the Germans choose Middlesbrough to be the first town to bomb in Britain, they also scuppered our best start to a season ever in the top flight and got the league abandoned. :mad:
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We'd lost two and drawn one when war was declared. Where do these myths come from?
 
I think football has changed a lot over the Century.

Northern industrial towns were more represented in the higher divisions pre-war, and clubs towards the South East in easy access of Heathrow were lower down the leagues.

Brentford, Palace, Brighton, Bournemouth and Luton rarely poked their heads above 3rd tier pre-1950s, and some only did it much later. Now, they're a quarter of the PL.

There has been a general slide towards the South East. I'm not sure how it's SG's fault, but I'm sure it is.
 
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