One Boro ITK claims Neil is off

Basically have to deal with unhappy players and new players coming into the side. The same problem every club in the world will also have, its certainly not unique to us and certainly not an excuse

You seem intent to defend him as much as possible which is fair enough, but do you honestly think Warnock is the best manager to deal with this squad of players we currently have? Especially considering his comments the other day. The club has spent a fortune on players this summer who Warnock just isnt going to use. How will this benefit the club?
If he's not using them it means he doesn't think they can influence the game. Payero was hopeless against Reading he didn't do anything positive with the ball just ran around and worked hard. Lea Siliki is wasteful in possession and is prone to losing the ball in dangerous areas, neither are ready play a major part yet. If I was Warnock I wouldn't play them either, doesn't matter how much they cost....
 
Fry
Hall
Payero
Hernandez
Fischer
Browne
Ameobi
Peltier now suspended
8 out of 20 outfield players
Payero isn't injured he's not favoured.
Hall more than likely the same.

Fisher, Browne and Ameobi were all long term injuries before the season started. So that leaves Hernandez, Fry and a suspended Peltier.

Out of that list the only guaranteed starters are Fry and Hernandez.
 
Thanks Big Jack the majority on here just want the manager gone no matter what. They wanted Pulis out then Woodgate and now Warnock.
I, one of the most vocal critics of Warnock on here didn't want Pulis out as he actually won games for us, and I was willing to tolerate Woodgate as I thought he'd turn it around even with his Warnockesque form.

It's the easy way out to imply those of us who want Warnock out are the ones calling for every managers head.
 
Payero isn't injured he's not favoured.
Hall more than likely the same.

Fisher, Browne and Ameobi were all long term injuries before the season started. So that leaves Hernandez, Fry and a suspended Peltier.

Out of that list the only guaranteed starters are Fry and Hernandez.
I've been through all this I'm not bothered about guaranteed starters it's irrelevant. They are unavailable and Warnock can't use them either as starters or off the bench...
 
I, one of the most vocal critics of Warnock on here didn't want Pulis out as he actually won games for us, and I was willing to tolerate Woodgate as I thought he'd turn it around even with his Warnockesque form.

It's the easy way out to imply those of us who want Warnock out are the ones calling for every managers head.
Fair enough I'll take your word for it but you are in the minority....
 
Can this debate last 2 weeks? Doubt anyone’s got anything new to add or will change their mind about the manager.
 
You asked me this a couple of days ago here is my response in case you forgot....

"Yeah fair enough I take your point but the waters have been choppy for Warnock. He had the Britt Fletcher situation to manage then was faced with trying to motivate players who he knew wouldn't be here next season"
That no excuse using your logic as it shouldn't have been a problem motivating those players as he knows what's needed, given he has to motivate himself this season knowing he won't be here next season!
 
Payero isn't injured he's not favoured.
Hall more than likely the same.

According to the Gazette, Hall injured his groin in training before the Hull game and Payero has a knee injury that kept him out of the squad. Either or both would have at least made the bench otherwise.
 
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That no excuse using your logic as it shouldn't have been a problem motivating those players as he knows what's needed, given he has to motivate himself this season knowing he won't be here next season!
He has no trouble motivating himself you just had to see him on the touchline last Wednesday night, he was bang up for it and he was trying to get the crowd going....the very people who are questioning HIS commitment to the cause....
 
I, one of the most vocal critics of Warnock on here didn't want Pulis out as he actually won games for us, and I was willing to tolerate Woodgate as I thought he'd turn it around even with his Warnockesque form.

It's the easy way out to imply those of us who want Warnock out are the ones calling for every managers head.
You thought Woodgate would turn it around!? Was that just a hunch like an old school detective? There was ZERO signs that Woodgate would turn it around, it was an utter shambles. I'm not backing Nobby up here either, I don't agree with alot he says and I too think it's time Warnock moved on, but when you suggest Pulis should have stayed and Woodgate could have turned it around, it does make your opinions somewhat discreditable. But of course you are entitled to them.
 
Fry
Hall
Payero
Hernandez
Fischer
Browne
Ameobi
Peltier now suspended
8 out of 20 outfield players
3 of them were out before the season started. Fry was only injured in the last game and Peltier played in the last game.
You've said yourself Payero isn't good enough but I'll give you Hall and Hernandez.

You're grasping at straws.
 

Is this article from the Gazette trying to defend Warnock or damn him? Very clickbait heavy, wonder if they have heard something either way
It's a good article and dispels some of the floored opinions displayed on this messageboard....For example 'He's a dinasoar who plays long ball stuff'.... It's nonsense just read the article. Some people believe what they want to believe or what others tell them.
I call it as I see it !!!!
 
Payero isn't injured he's not favoured.
Hall more than likely the same.

Fisher, Browne and Ameobi were all long term injuries before the season started. So that leaves Hernandez, Fry and a suspended Peltier.

Out of that list the only guaranteed starters are Fry and Hernandez.
Sorry Randy I've just basically repeated your post without actually reading it 🤣
 
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