Ombudsman finds that WASPI women are owed compensation...

This isn't the victory Waspi was looking for, as the Ombudsman is recommending nominal compensation for DWP's failure of communication, whereas they were seeking pension payments backdated to age 60. Some of them might get £3,000 but that is a small percentage of the £47,000 some were asking for.

I find many of the Waspi arguments difficult to accept. For example, "Christine in East Sussex tells the BBC's Nicky Campbell show that she never received a letter from the Department of Work and Pensions telling her the pension age had risen by five years". However, I don't think Christine would ever have received a letter telling her that her State Pension age was 60 in the first place. But somehow she knew before she turned 40 that her pension age was 60 and she never bothered to check after 1995 whether that was still the case.

I'm not for one second defending the DWP here, but in the age of the internet, why wouldn't you check your State Pension age well before you get to what you think it is?
 
WilliamMunny said:
I'm not for one second defending the DWP here, but in the age of the internet, why wouldn't you check your State Pension age well before you get to what you think it is?
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“I’m not for one second defending the DWP” whilst putting the blame on the affected women 🙄
 
WilliamMunny said:
This isn't the victory Waspi was looking for, as the Ombudsman is recommending nominal compensation for DWP's failure of communication, whereas they were seeking pension payments backdated to age 60. Some of them might get £3,000 but that is a small percentage of the £47,000 some were asking for.

I find many of the Waspi arguments difficult to accept. For example, "Christine in East Sussex tells the BBC's Nicky Campbell show that she never received a letter from the Department of Work and Pensions telling her the pension age had risen by five years". However, I don't think Christine would ever have received a letter telling her that her State Pension age was 60 in the first place. But somehow she knew before she turned 40 that her pension age was 60 and she never bothered to check after 1995 whether that was still the case.

I'm not for one second defending the DWP here, but in the age of the internet, why wouldn't you check your State Pension age well before you get to what you think it is?
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How common was the internet amongst those approaching retirement age in 1995?
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
They've taken responsibility and formed WASPI.
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Only after they finally found out their pension age had gone up. Those disaffected didn't check their pension age for at least 15 years and just assumed it would always be 60.

A woman I've just seen on BBC who turned 60 in 2019 didn't know until 2017 that she wouldn't get her State Pension at 60 and now she wants to know where her missing £47,000 has gone. I get that she feels hard done by, but it took her 22 years to find out (through a random conversation) that her pension age had been increased. I just don't understand why she wouldn't have checked this earlier rather than assume something she was told 25 or more years earlier was still the same.

Notwithstanding the above point, DWP should definitely have written to those affected in 1995. And they should pay compensation as directed by the Ombudsman. But that compensation is a fraction of what WASPI have been pushing for and reflects the inconvenience/distress that some women suffered through not knowing of the age increase, it most definitely is not the repayment of benefits lost as a result of the increase. Hence my original point that this isn't the victory they hoped for.
 
sherlock1969 said:
Why didn't the DWP just do their jobs properly?
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I don't know, ask the DWP. Probably because they are like HMRC, the Post Office, the BoE and the FCA and not fit for purpose. Anyway, I'm not really interested in that. Nor have I got any appetite to discuss this as a party political issue as you clearly want to make it. But for the benefit of clarity, as you seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that I am somehow on the side of the DWP and/or this Government, I think Rishi Sunak is an odious little rat boy who leads an awful Government of self-serving scumbags and the sooner they are kicked out of office the better.

Now that is out of the way, do you have anything to say in response to my points about the WASPI case or do you only care about the anti-Tory aspect of this story?
 
WilliamMunny said:
I don't know, ask the DWP. Probably because they are like HMRC, the Post Office, the BoE and the FCA and not fit for purpose. Anyway, I'm not really interested in that. Nor have I got any appetite to discuss this as a party political issue as you clearly want to make it. But for the benefit of clarity, as you seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that I am somehow on the side of the DWP and/or this Government, I think Rishi Sunak is an odious little rat boy who leads an awful Government of self-serving scumbags and the sooner they are kicked out of office the better.

Now that is out of the way, do you have anything to say in response to my points about the WASPI case or do you only care about the anti-Tory aspect of this story?
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How am I making it party political?

The maladministration covers governments of all colours, I've never said this is anything to do with one political party.

It is for the government of the day to ensure the recommendations are followed though, and that happens to be Tory (for now).
 
My wife was told she would get her pension when she was 62 1954+62 =2016 then she was told 66 =2020 she accepted the first but has never forgiven them for the second rise.
 
WilliamMunny said:
Only after they finally found out their pension age had gone up. Those disaffected didn't check their pension age for at least 15 years and just assumed it would always be 60.

A woman I've just seen on BBC who turned 60 in 2019 didn't know until 2017 that she wouldn't get her State Pension at 60 and now she wants to know where her missing £47,000 has gone. I get that she feels hard done by, but it took her 22 years to find out (through a random conversation) that her pension age had been increased. I just don't understand why she wouldn't have checked this earlier rather than assume something she was told 25 or more years earlier was still the same.

Notwithstanding the above point, DWP should definitely have written to those affected in 1995. And they should pay compensation as directed by the Ombudsman. But that compensation is a fraction of what WASPI have been pushing for and reflects the inconvenience/distress that some women suffered through not knowing of the age increase, it most definitely is not the repayment of benefits lost as a result of the increase. Hence my original point that this isn't the victory they hoped for.
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It's up to the providers of a service to notify the users of changes.
 
sherlock1969 said:
How am I making it party political?

The maladministration covers governments of all colours, I've never said this is anything to do with one political party.

It is for the government of the day to ensure the recommendations are followed though, and that happens to be Tory (for now).
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sherlock1969 said:
..and guess what, the Government has said it will refuse to comply with the findings.

Aside from the fact that this is just not acceptable, this is another nail in the coffin for the Tories, alienating the one group that were likely to vote for them.
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Exhibit A - your original post as above.

Exhibit B - ignoring everything I said except for the line about not defending the DWP, then insinuating that I was defending the DWP.
 
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