Number of children killed in Gaza compared to other conflicts….

WJH. said:
Why would Egypt be expected to take any refugees?

We in the west are experts at overthrowing governments and creating failed states.

So again would you be happy of Europe are the ones to take the refugees?

I think Macron has probably played out Washingtona plans I his head and that's why he's called for a ceasefire

Are you against a ceasefire?
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Europe didn’t trigger Hamas to do what it did , did it ? Iran and vocal supporters of the likes of Hamas and hezbollah did . If these countries are so vocal in their support for these organisations, they should be willing to house these people while their proxy organisations declare war on Israel

I don’t see why europe should take them in when it was Hamas that triggered all of this off again

No I support a ceasefire . But Hamas need to return the hostages . My hope is Israel will calm down when they are all returned
 
Boroboyyo said:
The Arab states that are so vocal in their support for them should , but they won’t . Specifically because incidents like this occur :

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Essentially when Jordan tried to house Palestinian refugees , they tried to overthrow the Jordan government in return . They did the same to Lebanon too . This is a big reason why Egypt doesn’t let them in
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Why doesn't Israel take in refugees?
 
Would the IDF drop bombs in Tel Aviv or Haifa if Hamas fighters were hiding there? I suspect not, as an Israeli life is worth much more than a Palestinian life.
 
Trugdish said:
Why doesn't Israel take in refugees?
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It makes "refugees" - of Palestinians - they call them "Refugee Camps".
They colonise Palestinian land, steal it, then force all the indigenous people into concentration camps - then control those too.
Its call colonialism.

If you ever get to go to Palestine, I`ll take you to two or three I`ve been to and show you what they look like and how the Zionist control every detail of the indigenous peoples lives.(y)
 
Boroboyyo said:
Europe didn’t trigger Hamas to do what it did , did it ? Iran and vocal supporters of the likes of Hamas and hezbollah did . If these countries are so vocal in their support for these organisations, they should be willing to house these people while their proxy organisations declare war on Israel

I don’t see why europe should take them in when it was Hamas that triggered all of this off again

No I support a ceasefire . But Hamas need to return the hostages . My hope is Israel will calm down when they are all returned
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I dont see why we should treat innocent Palestinians any different to the way we treat Ukranians: welcome them with open arms and give them to tools to overcome and expell the Zionist invaders?
The Palestinians joined the Palestinian Regiment in World War II, which fought alongside the British in various campaigns in North Africa and Egypt.
The Ukranians fought on the side of Hitler...........
 
r00fie1 said:
It makes "refugees" - of Palestinians - they call them "Refugee Camps".
They colonise Palestinian land, steal it, then force all the indigenous people into concentration camps - then control those too.
Its call colonialism.

If you ever get to go to Palestine, I`ll take you to two or three I`ve been to and show you what they look like and how the Zionist control every detail of the indigenous peoples lives.(y)
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Yeah I get that, I'm just making the point that defenders of Israel don't want to confront, they see all Palestinians as less than human
 
Trugdish said:
Yeah I get that, I'm just making the point that defenders of Israel don't want to confront, they see all Palestinians as less than human
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Sorry chap.
Yes they do.
As colonisers they have to see themselves as superior to justify their oppression and abuse of the Palestinians.
When you get dragged into that situationbecause you arent a zionist, in somw one else`s country, or even an anti-zionist Jew, they get treated with the same contempt as muslim, drews, christian and anyone who isnt one of "them".
Colonial Supremacists.
The inevitable outcome of European Colonialism in all its cruelty, brutality, supremacism, racism and torture.(n)
 
r00fie1 said:
I dont see why we should treat innocent Palestinians any different to the way we treat Ukranians: welcome them with open arms and give them to tools to overcome and expell the Zionist invaders?
The Palestinians joined the Palestinian Regiment in World War II, which fought alongside the British in various campaigns in North Africa and Egypt.
The Ukranians fought on the side of Hitler...........
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Palestinians are a much higher risk of terrorist attacks than Ukrainians . That and Ukrainians are culturally European , integration is a lot more easier for them than a Muslim from a culturally very conservative Middle East country .The only thing a radicalised Muslim hates more than a Jew , is western values . That’s why I’m baffled when I see rainbow flags for Palestine . A Palestinian state would most likely have homosexuals executed. Palestine would not become a democracy nor progressive if the war ceased

It’s not really fair to judge the Finnish and Ukrainians for that , is it ? Both sides fought on the axis side because they were at threat of invasion from the soviets. The Finns were literally invaded by the soviets not long before and the Ukrainians wanted independence from the soviets and literally had a F***ing famine because of Stalin . I mean the soviets literally invaded Poland with nazi Germany . Stalin was every much a **** as hitler , and the Soviet Union was every bit as evil as nazi germany . I mean the only reason we weren’t at war with the soviets too was nazi germany and the soviets at the same time would have been too much for the allies .

Churchill was on record as wanting us to declare war on the soviets shortly after ww2
 
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Boroboyyo said:
Palestinians are a much higher risk of terrorist attacks than Ukrainians . That and Ukrainians are culturally European , integration is a lot more easier for them than a Muslim from a culturally very conservative Middle East country .The only thing a radicalised Muslim hates more than a Jew , is western values . That’s why I’m baffled when I see rainbow flags for Palestine . A Palestinian state would most likely have homosexuals executed. Palestine would not become a democracy nor progressive if the war ceased

It’s not really fair to judge the Finnish and Ukrainians for that , is it ? Both sides fought on the axis side because they were at threat of invasion from the soviets. The Finns were literally invaded by the soviets not long before and the Ukrainians wanted independence from the soviets and literally had a F***ing famine because of Stalin . I mean the soviets literally invaded Poland with nazi Germany . Stalin was every much a **** as hitler , and the Soviet Union was every bit as evil as nazi germany . I mean the only reason we weren’t at war with the soviets too was nazi germany and the soviets at the same time would have been too much for the allies .

Churchill was on record as wanting us to declare war on the soviets shortly after ww2
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Palestinian movements in the past were both secular and socialist. It has been Israeli policy to prop up Hamas for several decades now as they know making Hamas the face of Palestinian liberation means peace will never happy. Israel has never wanted peace, they want the land

You're first point is also nonsense, I don't believe in transactional solidarity. Palestinians are being ethnically cleansed and genocided. I don't need to value check every single Palestinian to say I stand with them.
 
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Boroboyyo said:
Palestinians are a much higher risk of terrorist attacks than Ukrainians . That and Ukrainians are culturally European , integration is a lot more easier for them than a Muslim from a culturally very conservative Middle East country .The only thing a radicalised Muslim hates more than a Jew , is western values . That’s why I’m baffled when I see rainbow flags for Palestine . A Palestinian state would most likely have homosexuals executed. Palestine would not become a democracy nor progressive if the war ceased

It’s not really fair to judge the Finnish and Ukrainians for that , is it ? Both sides fought on the axis side because they were at threat of invasion from the soviets. The Finns were literally invaded by the soviets not long before and the Ukrainians wanted independence from the soviets and literally had a F***ing famine because of Stalin . I mean the soviets literally invaded Poland with nazi Germany . Stalin was every much a **** as hitler , and the Soviet Union was every bit as evil as nazi germany . I mean the only reason we weren’t at war with the soviets too was nazi germany and the soviets at the same time would have been too much for the allies .

Churchill was on record as wanting us to declare war on the soviets shortly after ww2
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Rubbish

Like many today I paid my respects on Remembrance Sunday - but not to support the values of the racist and fascist scum waving England flags, kicking and attacking coppers in London yesterday - or those cowards in Oxford chucking petrol cans at the Mosque with "IDF Rule" written on them.
 
Palestinians maintain and tend the British and Commonwealth War Graves Cemetary in Gaza. Constantly under attack from Israeli drones.

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We remember today all those British and Commonwealth Troops and their allies around the globe, who died to protect their countries from the darkness of racism and fascism.

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The Palestine Regiment

Consisting of Jews and Arabs who fought in Egypt alongside British and Commonwealth Troops, was formed in 1942. In Gaza the British and Commonwealth War Graves Commission supports maintenance of the Cemetary of those soldiers who were lost in battle. It is little known, but we probably wont be able to visit the graves and pay our respects to them for sometime.
 
r00fie1 said:
Rubbish

Like many today I paid my respects on Remembrance Sunday - but not to support the values of the racist and fascist scum waving England flags, kicking and attacking coppers in London yesterday - or those cowards in Oxford chucking petrol cans at the Mosque with "IDF Rule" written on them.
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It’s not rubbish at all , and you know it . For one thing , antisemitism has exploded since this all started In Europe , yet conveniently ignored by the left . That is much more likely to be problematic if we bring in Palestinians . Synagogues have had the swastika sprayed on them

And yes, I will say the commie soviets were every bit as vile as the fascist nazis . The left don’t like to own the fact communism is as vile as fascism , but it was . The Ukrainians and Finns were stuck between choosing the side that was less likely to invade them
 
Boroboyyo said:
It’s not rubbish at all , and you know it . For one thing , antisemitism has exploded since this all started In Europe , yet conveniently ignored by the left . That is much more likely to be problematic if we bring in Palestinians . Synagogues have had the swastika sprayed on them

And yes, I will say the commie soviets were every bit as vile as the fascist nazis . The left don’t like to own the fact communism is as vile as fascism , but it was . The Ukrainians and Finns were stuck between choosing the side that was less likely to invade them
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No platform.

Good evening.
 
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