Number of children killed in Gaza compared to other conflicts….
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dorivasmiddlefinger
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What constitutes a genocide?
sherlock
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Are you having a laugh?
newyddion
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the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
r00fie1
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Like Hitler did to the Jews. [Target a specific group because of their race, ethnicity and religious beliefs]
Adolf Eichman was attributed with the system devised whereby the "final solution?" of the "Jewish Problem" meant the industrial murder of Jews, never before contemplated - based on the fact they were Jews. Eichman was highly regarded by Hitler and Himler.
It is inaccurate and historically out of context to call Zionism "fascist", but the murder of Palestinians by their thousands in a concentration camp [Gaza] by the daily bombing, starving the population, erasing all sanitation and health provision, human excrement lining the rubble and in the streets, with rotting bodies decaying under bombed out homes, with no way out, denying the Palestinians [because they are Palestinians] the right to life - is Genocide, no matter how you dress it up.
Netanyahu and the Zionist plan is to move Palestinians out of Gaza, the diaspora begin, then move to the West Bank and do the same. The issue here is that the Palestinians have been attacked and murdered for decades. Many will die yet. But they wont all move into the barren desert like the Nakba ["Catastrophie"] of 1948 - where thousands were murdered, displaced and imprisoned by the Irgun and the Stern Gang. 2.3 million Palestinians wont move. Fanaticism may kill people and pile the bodies high for so long, but it wont move millions. It wont fit the "master-plan". History is on the side of those who speak for justice and peace.
Netanyahu and the Zionist extremist fanatics in his governent, have said they will wipe the Palestinians out of Israel - off the map - cleanse it of the "human animals" [Hitler used the same phrase to describe the Jews]. But they wont do that: a Palestinian Christian I met in Hebron said to me:
"To exist is to resist.
Even when I have gone the Palestinian spirit lives on"
Not one more life should be lost - no matter who what where or when in Palestine.
Jews, Christians, Muslims, aethiests and others lived side by side before the second world-war and the Nackba of 1948. The only way to end the genocide is to end the occupation.
The key to ending the occupation is in the hands of the Americans.
Adolf Eichman was attributed with the system devised whereby the "final solution?" of the "Jewish Problem" meant the industrial murder of Jews, never before contemplated - based on the fact they were Jews. Eichman was highly regarded by Hitler and Himler.
It is inaccurate and historically out of context to call Zionism "fascist", but the murder of Palestinians by their thousands in a concentration camp [Gaza] by the daily bombing, starving the population, erasing all sanitation and health provision, human excrement lining the rubble and in the streets, with rotting bodies decaying under bombed out homes, with no way out, denying the Palestinians [because they are Palestinians] the right to life - is Genocide, no matter how you dress it up.
Netanyahu and the Zionist plan is to move Palestinians out of Gaza, the diaspora begin, then move to the West Bank and do the same. The issue here is that the Palestinians have been attacked and murdered for decades. Many will die yet. But they wont all move into the barren desert like the Nakba ["Catastrophie"] of 1948 - where thousands were murdered, displaced and imprisoned by the Irgun and the Stern Gang. 2.3 million Palestinians wont move. Fanaticism may kill people and pile the bodies high for so long, but it wont move millions. It wont fit the "master-plan". History is on the side of those who speak for justice and peace.
Netanyahu and the Zionist extremist fanatics in his governent, have said they will wipe the Palestinians out of Israel - off the map - cleanse it of the "human animals" [Hitler used the same phrase to describe the Jews]. But they wont do that: a Palestinian Christian I met in Hebron said to me:
"To exist is to resist.
Even when I have gone the Palestinian spirit lives on"
Not one more life should be lost - no matter who what where or when in Palestine.
Jews, Christians, Muslims, aethiests and others lived side by side before the second world-war and the Nackba of 1948. The only way to end the genocide is to end the occupation.
The key to ending the occupation is in the hands of the Americans.
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red_harrington
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Except the Americans = Jews
In other words, it's not gonna happen
The key to ending the conflict will only be realised when each side learns how to respect each other and live side by side, just like almost every other nation on earth has learned over the past few hundred years
But again, not gonna happen... not for a while, anyway
atypical_boro
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Don't mention the H word though.
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dorivasmiddlefinger
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someone had better take out the Hamas leadership before they take power in a Palestinian state and attempt another pogrom. Frightening that a terrorist organisation intent on the destruction of their neighbours are openly elected. A regime which would deny freedoms to all manor of minorities.
GibbosEmpire
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someone had better take out the Hamas leadership before they take power in a Palestinian state and attempt another pogrom. Frightening that a terrorist organisation intent on the destruction of their neighbours are openly elected. A regime which would deny freedoms to all manor of minorities.
Is Israel a terroirst state?
newyddion
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Palestine has no leadership, Hamas is not Palestine. Israel has a hard right government backed to the hilt by the war mongering west.someone had better take out the Hamas leadership before they take power in a Palestinian state and attempt another pogrom. Frightening that a terrorist organisation intent on the destruction of their neighbours are openly elected. A regime which would deny freedoms to all manor of minorities.
Lots of uncomfortable truths are coming to the forefront as a result of this conflict.
A single terrorist act although abhorrent would not be justification for a war.. says who.. those who went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan after the Sept 11 attacks?
Our own partitioning of Ireland in 1920 served as the template for the later partitions of India and Pakistan, and Israel and Palestine.. we can hardly criticise these occupations which we have carried out, participated and orchestrated. Conflict as recent as the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s on our own turf, the 1980s with the Falklands.. you would think would make us a voice of reason.. learning from our mistakes.
Unfortunately not. The mere mention of Palestine laid waste to any plans of a fairer society.. the consequences still being felt today.. weaponised anti semitism left the door wide open for gangster capitalists to rob the country blind. The slowest car crash in history.
The worldwide community needs to step in here and provide security for the most vulnerable here.. de escalation needs to be the priority.. a ceasefire.
This issues haven’t just cropped up.. they e been rumbling on for years and caused in part by our own involvement. Where does the steady hand come from?
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dorivasmiddlefinger
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I have no idea. Wouldn’t surprise me if they are. I suppose that’s what 1000s of years of oppression will do to a people. The abused become the abusers. The expelled Afghan, Iraqi, Lebanese, Yemeni, Moroccan, Algerian, Egyptian, Libyan, Syrian Jews must certainly have an axe to grind.
r00fie1
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Morning red.
I was thinking more about the Americans constant resupply of deadly weapons to Jerusalem ["$ aid"].
It leaves a numb feeling.
r00fie1
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How many more innocent women and children have to die to "take out" Hamas?someone had better take out the Hamas leadership before they take power in a Palestinian state and attempt another pogrom. Frightening that a terrorist organisation intent on the destruction of their neighbours are openly elected. A regime which would deny freedoms to all manor of minorities.
dorivasmiddlefinger
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Depends if you believe the end justify the means.
sherlock
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If anyone believes that they need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
MolteniArcore
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The end will be a load of civillains killed, Israel annexing Gaza (they have already said that’s what they intend to do, against the wishes of the US), and the creation of Hamas Mk 2. All these kids that are growing up with bombs raining down on them are only going to go one way.
BlindBoyGrunt
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Well do you?
r00fie1
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How many?
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