New Green Hydrogen Project

Blue and grey are cons by the oil and gas industry to let them keep polluting. CC has never been implemented on any significant scale and probably never will be.
Exactly this. The push for hydrogen is precisely because it can be commoditiesed by the O and G industry's they can still pollute and make obscene profits but make people think they care about the environment.
 
Its about time the area have received some significant investment.

I ma not been critical, but shouldn't have EU/EEC money been flooding in for large industrial schemes in the last 40 years to compensate for the loss of steel making jobs etc.
The North East was the largest recipient in the UK of EU funding. Don't expect that to be replaced.
 
Exactly this. The push for hydrogen is precisely because it can be commoditiesed by the O and G industry's they can still pollute and make obscene profits but make people think they care about the environment.
Grey Hydrogen is being done away with. Blue hydrogen is the result of carbon capture so if they are removing carbon from the atmosphere it's hardly a con if the result is usable hydrogen. Blue hydrogen is a stepping stone and will also prolong the life of the existing petrochemical industry on Teesside. We've lost steelmaking, shipbuilding and large scale steel fabrication, if we lose this there will be little left.
 
Grey Hydrogen is being done away with. Blue hydrogen is the result of carbon capture so if they are removing carbon from the atmosphere it's hardly a con if the result is usable hydrogen. Blue hydrogen is a stepping stone and will also prolong the life of the existing petrochemical industry on Teesside. We've lost steelmaking, shipbuilding and large scale steel fabrication, if we lose this there will be little left.
Blue hydrogen is a bigger con then grey. It pretends to be eco whilst still burning fossil fuels.

ALso grey hydrogen account for 98% of hydrogen prodcution. They aren't exactly rushing to do away with it.
 
Blue hydrogen is a bigger con then grey. It pretends to be eco whilst still burning fossil fuels.

ALso grey hydrogen account for 98% of hydrogen prodcution. They aren't exactly rushing to do away with it.
The carbon capture plan, literally turns grey hydrogen into blue so this scheme is all about doing away with grey hydrogen. On teesside we have numerous plants which together produce over 50% of the UK's hydrogen but at the moment it is mostly a byproduct. Surely we want these operations to become carbon neutral for the sake of the planet if nothing else. If they are then left with a saleable product then what's the problem?
 
The carbon capture plan, literally turns grey hydrogen into blue so this scheme is all about doing away with grey hydrogen. On teesside we have numerous plants which together produce over 50% of the UK's hydrogen but at the moment it is mostly a byproduct. Surely we want these operations to become carbon neutral for the sake of the planet if nothing else. If they are then left with a saleable product then what's the problem?
We are still buring stuff. We are still taking things out of the ground, spending enegry refining it and then burning it. This needs to stop. Hydrogen probably should be part of the future, for large, long distance transport like shipping for example. But it has to be green.
 
We are still buring stuff. We are still taking things out of the ground, spending enegry refining it and then burning it. This needs to stop. Hydrogen probably should be part of the future, for large, long distance transport like shipping for example. But it has to be green.
This today, is just about reducing our carbon emissions, nothing else. We can't just close down all of our remaining industry so we are going to clean it up. Yes we must end our reliance of fossil fuels but not overnight. A Green hydrogen plant has just been announced this week, for the old Haverton Hill yard.
 
This today, is just about reducing our carbon emissions, nothing else. We can't just close down all of our remaining industry so we are going to clean it up. Yes we must end our reliance of fossil fuels but not overnight. A Green hydrogen plant has just been announced this week, for the old Haverton Hill yard.
Yup. Its a good start. I think carbon capture is dead in the water really
 
Exactly this. The push for hydrogen is precisely because it can be commoditiesed by the O and G industry's they can still pollute and make obscene profits but make people think they care about the environment.
So you think the 'World' can operate without the products of Oil and Gas for the foreseeable future ? I like the idea of Gov'ts incentivising industry to produce new greener technologies. These companies have a lot of people with transferable skills and knowledge along with their service industries.
I would go now with incentivising industry to produce mini nuclear power stations based on subsea technology. I would incentivise sheep farmers to produce natural wool ( do sheep fart a lot?)for insulation and encourage the wearing of natural products. Encourage people to use their legs and bikes, trains more before jumping in the car, bring back car sharing.
I'm an open book when it comes to what is the best way forward, but poisoning the planet we all are and it has to be reversed.
Invest and buy only from companies/ countries that have green credentials and ethical practices.
I still believe in this country and the people in it, we can make and do things with the right incentives.
 
As said I am not been critical but how many permanent jobs did it create.
I cant think of any major infrastructure projects on teesside that were EU funded. I've travelled a bit in europe with work and leisure and seen a lot of EU flagged works on motorways, bridges, port and (possibly) airports- I cant think of any at home, possibly down to familiarity and me just admiring the local views though
 
The O&G multi nationals have invested heavily in the Blue H2 Scam.

Even the Chair of the H2 committee resigned because it's a massive hoodwink, Chris Jackson......

"In 30 years' time everyone working in the energy sector today will be asked by the generations that follow us, what we did to prevent the coming climate catastrophe," Jackson said in a LinkedIn post announcing his resignation.

"And I believe passionately that I would be betraying future generations by remaining silent on [the] fact that blue hydrogen is at best an expensive distraction, and at worst a lock-in for continued fossil fuel use that guarantees we will fail to meet our decarbonization goals."

Also, the winning bids from BP and National Grid on the Teesside and Humber "Partnership" and Cadent ENI at Hynet in the North West have MASSIVELY underestimated their development costs to almost fraudulent extents.

Yet another add to the list of Tory Govt fk ups. But nobody seems to care any more.
 
I cant think of any major infrastructure projects on teesside that were EU funded. I've travelled a bit in europe with work and leisure and seen a lot of EU flagged works on motorways, bridges, port and (possibly) airports- I cant think of any at home, possibly down to familiarity and me just admiring the local views though
I know people have posted figures and the EU funding per person was quite high in the Tees Valley, but I wonder how effective in total he has been, certainly compared with the sums invested. I remeber touring the west coast of Ireland and the economy appeared to be boosted a lot by EU funding. New roads, airports, industrial estates etc
 
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